be careful cutting palys!!

**Shores805** · 02-23-2012, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Gamble

A good friend of mine put a rock in his backyard to dry out and kill some fast growing palys. His father in laws dog found the rock two weeks later and was dragging it around the yard....... 5 hours later the dog was dead from paly toxin poisoning. Be careful guys.

Wow that's a bummer.

**GOW** · 02-23-2012, 07:45 PM

Rub some fresh jalapeño in it.

I've been wearing goggles for a while plus gloves and still have managed to dose myself with palythoa toxin. I feel for you bro, next time don't squeeze them so hard.

**HappyHoney41** · 02-23-2012, 07:58 PM

Zoa's can produce the most toxic substance in nature. Atleast that's what it said on the smithsonian's 'Secrets of the GreatBarrier Reef'.

**HappyHoney41** · 02-23-2012, 08:17 PM

Some zoanthids contain the highly toxic substance palytoxin. Palytoxin is one of the most toxic organic substances in the world, but there is an ongoing debate over the concentration of this toxin in these animals.^{[citation needed]} However, even in small quantities, the toxin can be fatal should it be ingested or enter the blood stream. If delivered immediately, vasodilators injected into the ventricle of the heart can act as an antidote.[1]
In order for this toxin to be dangerous to humans, the average aquarist would need to ingest the zoanthid in sufficient quantities, or brush a recent cut over it. Average handling, propagation and aquarium maintenance is unlikely to pose any danger beyond a localized skin reaction.^{[citation needed]} A 2010 study found toxic zoanthids in three Washington D.C. area aquarium stores.^[15]
Contrary to common belief, palytoxin can be absorbed through intact skin.^[16] The danger of acute poisoning from venomous zoanthids is quite real. An aquarist was poisoned through skin injuries on fingers by a Parazoanthus species, but recovered after 3 days. His zoanthid was found to contain 2-3 milligram of palytoxin per gram.^[17] For comparison, the intravenous LD50 dose of palytoxin for a grown man is less than 8 microgram. Thus each gram of the offending zoanthid contained enough venom to kill at least 125 grown men.
Palytoxin is a tumor promoter, and is being studied in relation to signaling pathways in skin cancer genesis.^{[18]

I've heard getting it in your eye is just as bad as getting it in a cut.}

**KoleTang** · 02-23-2012, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by returnofsid

As with a Jellyfish or Fire Coral sting, would peeing on it work??!! lol

Reminds me of one of the best scenes from LOST

**peppip** · 02-24-2012, 12:50 AM

is it bad to cut palys under the water ? guess you wouldnt get squirted in the face that way, but how does the tank take it?

**Aquatic Dreams** · 02-24-2012, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by Gamble

You should tell your girlfriend to shave her beard!

Ha ha ha

**SteezySPS** · 02-24-2012, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by HappyHoney41

Some zoanthids contain the highly toxic substance palytoxin. Palytoxin is one of the most toxic organic substances in the world, but there is an ongoing debate over the concentration of this toxin in these animals.^{[citation needed]} However, even in small quantities, the toxin can be fatal should it be ingested or enter the blood stream. If delivered immediately, vasodilators injected into the ventricle of the heart can act as an antidote.[1]
In order for this toxin to be dangerous to humans, the average aquarist would need to ingest the zoanthid in sufficient quantities, or brush a recent cut over it. Average handling, propagation and aquarium maintenance is unlikely to pose any danger beyond a localized skin reaction.^{[citation needed]} A 2010 study found toxic zoanthids in three Washington D.C. area aquarium stores.^[15]
Contrary to common belief, palytoxin can be absorbed through intact skin.^[16] The danger of acute poisoning from venomous zoanthids is quite real. An aquarist was poisoned through skin injuries on fingers by a Parazoanthus species, but recovered after 3 days. His zoanthid was found to contain 2-3 milligram of palytoxin per gram.^[17] For comparison, the intravenous LD50 dose of palytoxin for a grown man is less than 8 microgram. Thus each gram of the offending zoanthid contained enough venom to kill at least 125 grown men.
Palytoxin is a tumor promoter, and is being studied in relation to signaling pathways in skin cancer genesis.^{[18]

I've heard getting it in your eye is just as bad as getting it in a cut.}

thats very comforting. better check in to the emergency room