Feet4Fish
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Apologies in advance if this is a naive question. Can a dwarf angler and a scorpion fish be kept in same tank (large tank > 90 gallons)? From what I have researched it seems both stay about 4-5 inches.
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Feet4Fish
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Thanks for your input. I think they are both awesome fish and would love to have them in my tank. I have seen a you tube video of a guy who has like 5 sea goblins, 2 leaf fish and 3-4 lions all in a 125 gallon. Do you think the 4-5 goblins cohabitate because they are the same species? Of course I would keep their bellies full so perhaps they would be less inclined to attack the other.
tyler1503
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I would expect the angler to eat the scorp. Anglers can, and do, eat fish up to twice their own size and even bigger. There's a video on YouTube where one eats a flounder about three times the size of the angler. Anglers should be in a species tank unfortunately as life for an angler is either eat or be eaten 
It wouldn't be impossible, but losing one of them is a very real possibility.
It wouldn't be impossible, but losing one of them is a very real possibility.
tyler1503
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Not 100% sure on the goblins, but the leafs are generally ok with other fish. Compared to the angler they have a small mouth. They will still eat smaller community fish though.
I would say they're ok to keep with other scorps as long as they don't get eaten themselves
I would say they're ok to keep with other scorps as long as they don't get eaten themselves
ice fish
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leaf fish are generally very docile and you would have to target feed them if you had more aggressive eaters in the tank such as lions. Just make sure they get food as well and you will do fine. Multiple scorps of any kind isnt always the best idea, some will get territorial if there both males and may fight. I would suggest getting a pair if anything. Or mix and match the scorps as long as they stay around the same size. Rule of thumb with scorps and lions. If it can fit inside its mouth it will eat it.
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Feet4Fish
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Thanks. One score I think would be it. Really wanted a Pygmy angler as well, but doesn't sound like a wise move. I appreciate you guys educating me. The research I did on live aquaria, blue zoo and vivid all made it sound fine to put an angler in with other fish larger than it. After seeing the angler and flounder video I must say I have reconsidered.
rayn
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Anglers are always species tanks. They have huge mouths!
Multiple species of bottom dweller can be done! I have had a pair of Inimicus (goblins) with a brasiliensis and a plumieri for years now. The brasiliensis just passed though, assuming from old age. Keep in mind your species and their end total growth and how they will fit in your tank. Some preds stay small and some get huge. I personally lost a Mozambique to my plumieri, and never thought that would happen. I would guess his mouth to be able to get around 2" in diameter when he wants.
Also make sure you are good on filteration with these guys. Feed them silversides or some other meaty food and you can watch them breath and have particles escape their gills. The Inimicus will like a minimum sand bed of 3" as well.
Multiple species of bottom dweller can be done! I have had a pair of Inimicus (goblins) with a brasiliensis and a plumieri for years now. The brasiliensis just passed though, assuming from old age. Keep in mind your species and their end total growth and how they will fit in your tank. Some preds stay small and some get huge. I personally lost a Mozambique to my plumieri, and never thought that would happen. I would guess his mouth to be able to get around 2" in diameter when he wants.
Also make sure you are good on filteration with these guys. Feed them silversides or some other meaty food and you can watch them breath and have particles escape their gills. The Inimicus will like a minimum sand bed of 3" as well.
rayn
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Anglers are one of those species only tanks. My future purchase and new tank will be a Rhinopias scorp tank. look those guys up
Ice? Think I know you from somwwhere!
Rhinos are definitely cool fish. Wide variety of colors and variants. They command a high price though. Anywhere from 250-1500 I have seen.
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Feet4Fish
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Rayn - thanks for your input. Your knowledge on these awesome predator fish is awesome to me. Got the filtration for the job. Would love to see some pics of your tank!
rayn
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I will have to provide new pics in a while. Currently they are in process of a upgrade, 125 to a 180. I will see if I can dig any up though.
Careful with scorps, they are a slippery path to multiple tanks. Some are small, some are large, but they are all cool. They just don't always mix well
Careful with scorps, they are a slippery path to multiple tanks. Some are small, some are large, but they are all cool. They just don't always mix well
tyler1503
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Anglers are one of those species only tanks. My future purchase and new tank will be a Rhinopias scorp tank. look those guys up
Would love one of these! I have a bunch of LFS ranging from a 2 minute walk to a 5 hour drive away with me on a call list so I can get a phone call as soon as one comes up on the wholesalers lists. Unfortunately in 3 years I'm yet to receive a call from any of them. They're definitely a rare fish!
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Feet4Fish
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You talk as if multiple tanks is a bad thing! [emoji6]
ice fish
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Well i work at a Fish store so its a tad easier...(and cheaper) to get fish in i want. Im just Waiting to start it up though. Gotta get a tank ready for it. And find out where i can put it...haha
rayn
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