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Velvet Transfer Method - Updated 10/2020

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Quarantine Goal
The best way to avoid having disease in your main display is to have a proactive and comprehensive quarantine system from the start, as professional aquarist have learned from experience. This article is to encourage all marine aquarist, from beginner to advanced, to have a quarantine system using current best practices, where you can easily proactively treat for 99% of all marine fish diseases before they show up in your main display. Ideally you will need to quarantine all new fish for 30 days yet this can be reduced to 14 days at a minimum. The last two weeks are mainly to verify that they are indeed disease free and to reacclimate them back to full salinity.

The idea is to develop a clear holistic approach for just about everything out there, without having to micromanage every fish individually. This becomes more and more practical and advantageous as you get into larger numbers of fish stock and investment levels to consider. Are you adding a damsel to a 20 gallon fish only or are you adding that damsel to a fully stocked 400 gallon mixed fish and coral reef system? What about a 400,000 gallon mixed reef? How much work will an infestation then entail?

Dip All Rocks and Corals
- One note worth mentioning here is that it is very possible for a Cryptocaryon (Ich) or Amyloodinium (Velvet) infection to also occur from adding any new live rock and corals (with a small piece of attached rock) to the system where the tomites can be attached for up to 75 days. It’s known that they attach to rocky like substrates and could be attached to a snail’s shell, for example. Based on this, it’s advisable to quarantine all invertebrates if feasible, rocks and corals, in a fish free system for 76 days, or using one of the commercially available coral Dips, such as MediCoral Coral Dip by Brightwell Aquatics https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/medicoral-coral-dip-brightwell.html, before adding them to your main mixed fish and reef display. Try to add the least amount of foreign bag water to your display.

Quarantine All Fish
We are all familiar with the problems and frustrations of an Amyloodinium (Velvet) infestation yet according Jay Hemdal, curator at the Toledo Aquarium, Neobenedenia flukes are even a greater problem for them and they incorporate a dual copper and hyposalinity quarantine system, to eradicate both Cryptocaryon and Neobenedenia flukes, that they plan to publish in the 2017 Marine Aquarium Annual. Barret Christie, who is now at the OdySea Aquarium, developed a flukes hyposalinity treatment which consists of using a 15 ppt hyposalinity for 30 days. Hemdal has identified through his experience the following in order of how commonplace each affliction is for new arrivals: (Hemdal, Christie 2016.)

1) Bacterial infections – systemic bacterial disease, including Mycobacteriosis
2) Flukes
3) Uronema
4) Cryptocaryon
5) Amyloodinium


Therefore the goal of any quarantine process should be to tackle all 6 of these afflictions and using a combination of methods this can be accomplished.

1) Bacterial infections
Proactively fight with safe formalin such as SeaChem’s Paraguard. Only use an antibiotic based product if you see or highly suspect an actual bacterial infection.
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2) Flukes
Eradicated with the Hyposalinity Method or a Prazipro type medication
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3) Uronema
Eradicate with a malachite green based medication or safe formalin based medications such as Sea Chems Paraguard (Bartelme, 2007.) http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2004/2/mini
uronema4.jpg https://humble.fish/uronema/

4) Cryptocaryon (Ich)
Limited number of white spots visible on the fish. Eradicated with the Hyposalinity Method - most of the time - as there are hyposalinity resistant strains (Bartelme, 2003.) http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2003/12/mini and a 3 day or less Transfer Method or copper CopperPower at 1.5ppm to 2.5ppm https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/copper-power-parasite-treatment-endich.html with the Hanna Copper Test Kit https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/copp...er-hi702-hanna-checker-hanna-instruments.html They stay on the fish from 3 to 7 days, then stay from 3 to 72 days attached to a hard surface and they have up to 2 days to find a new host. (Colorni & Burgess, 1997.) Therefore a 3 Day transfer will out run it.
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5) Amyloodinium (Velvet)
Vast number of white spots visible on the fish. Help fight with the Transfer Method, eradicate with copper (copper CopperPower at 1.5ppm to 2.5ppm https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/copper-power-parasite-treatment-endich.html with the Hanna Copper Test Kit https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/copp...er-hi702-hanna-checker-hanna-instruments.html) or Chloroquine Phosphate http://reef2reef.com/ams/tank-terror-identifying-and-treating-marine-velvet.26/
amy.jpg https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/tank-terror-identifying-and-treating-marine-velvet.26/
SeaChem’s Cuppermine is not recommended, by Humble.Fish, as it has a very small margin of error that is hard to accurately test and implement. If you go slightly lower, it's ineffective. If you go slightly higher mortalities will occur. In contrast CopperPower has a much bigger margin of error.
Amyloodinium (Velvet) possibly can complete a lifecycle in just 36 hours, according to Humble.Fish. Therefore a 2 day transfer might not work in all cases but a 1 day transfer will out run it for sure.

With Cryptocaryon (Ich) and Amyloodinium (Velvet) it's first important not to get the names and the two mixed up as people will interchange them without knowing. Cryptocaryon (Ich) is slower and Amyloodinium (Velvet) is much more virulent and devastating. HumbleFish and community has the best information I've seen https://humble.fish/

Based upon the Amyloodinium (Velvet) life cycle http://www.ultimatereef.com/articles/marinevelvet/ the Transfer Method is effective against Amyloodinium (Velvet) using 1 Day transfers for a total of 13 days to out run it.

Other than copper or chloroquine phosphate is the only known proven cure for Amyloodinium (Velvet) (Miller, 2007), http://reef2reef.com/ams/tank-terror-identifying-and-treating-marine-velvet.26/ and (Hemdal, 2013) http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2013/2/fish. If you still have an infection after doing the transfers, then you will need to incorporate or switch over to one of these treatments. If you do not have any small angles, sharks or rays then you could incorporate copper from the beginning.


Velvet Transfer Method
This is an alternate version of the Transfer Method (Colorni, 1985.) http://atj.net.au/marineaquaria/3daytransfer.html, to proactively eradicate Cryptocaryon from new fish arrivals.

This method seems to work most of the time and most importantly is practical for the average hobbyist, retailer or wholesaler, to use proactively to eliminate any infestation before it occurs on all new arrivals. (Please note this can be mildly stressful on fish yet much less so than an infection and then a post treatment of Copper.) As opposed to the Transfer Method here (Miller, 2016.) http://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tank-transfer-method.192655/ sterilization and ammonia levels aren't a concern nor is there a large amount of water wasted.

You can use two 5 gallon buckets or transfer aquariums and transfer, from one to the other, every day for 13 days. Once you have transferred out the fish you let the other one completely dry out to eradicate the parasites. On day 13 you can transfer to an established quarantine aquarium for a further 14 days for verification.

Ammonia levels are not a problem over a short period of just 1 to 3 days between transfers. To avoid shock upon a transfer systems should be exactly the same setup and original source water to have the same water parameters. You can also incorporate a quick 1 to 3 minute freshwater dip between transfers that most fish can tolerate.

- Day 1 - Place your fish in the first transfer aquarium
- Day 2 - 13 - After the first day transfer your fish from the first to the second transfer aquarium. Transfer them over in a small container with just enough water for them to be submersed under or if you have to with a net. At each transfer transmission become less likely and by the fifth transfer the fish should Cryptocaryon (Ich) and Amyloodinium (Velvet) free after 13 days. There is a very small chance of transfer of a Tomont or Protomont in this process (with the water and on the fish of course) yet not to worry that's why you have a series of transfers and the parasite will be left behind.

- Day 14 - Transfer to the display aquarium.
Or Ideally Day 14 - 29 Transfer to the quarantine aquarium to verify and possibly treat for anything that arises.
- Day 30 - Transfer to the display aquarium.

There is the unproven theory out there that Cryptocaryon is capable of aerosolization and can pass from one aquarium to the next on tiny droplets. Until we know more it would be advisable to avoid air pumps, to use top lids and perhaps to have a barrier between each transfer aquarium (this according to Jay Hemdal 2016 and Miller, 2016). http://www.reef2reef.com/threads/aerosol-transmission.190292/ .

Popular Quarantine Options to Incorporate
- Treat with Nitrofurazone, for bacteria using API's FURAN-2 https://apifishcare.com/product/furan-2
- Treat with Prazipro https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/tank...i/prazipro-praziquantel-treatment-hikari.html for worms on day 3 and for 24 hours on day 13 (Humblefish, 2016). Although it’s known that this does not work 100% of the time for flukes, (Hemdal, 2016). http://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tank-transfer-method.192655/, or use API's GeneralCure https://apifishcare.com/product/general-cure
- Hyposality Method

Also see Humble.fish's similar Transfer Method for Velvet!
https://humble.fish/ttm-for-velvet/

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References
  1. Bartelme, D. Terry. “Aquarium Fish: News From The Warfront With Cryptocaryon Irritans, Part Two Of Five” Advanced Aquarist, December, 2003. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2003/12/mini
  2. Bartelme, D. Terry. “Feature Article: Identifying Parasitic Diseases in Marine Aquarium Fish - A Hobbyist’s Guide to Identifying Some Common Marine Aquarium Parasites” Advanced Aquarist October, 2007. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2007/10/aafeature1
  3. Colorni, “Three Day Transfer Method” ATJ's Marine Aquarium Site, 1985, 2008. http://atj.net.au/marineaquaria/3daytransfer.html
  4. Colorni, A. & Burgess, P.J. “Cryptocaryon irritans Brown 1951, the Cause of White Spot Disease in Marine Fish: an Update.” Aquarium Sciences and Conservation, 1997.
  5. Hemdal, Jay. Christie, Barret “Cryptocaryon and Quarantine Methods” email communication, 2016.
  6. Hemdal, Jay. “Aquarium Fish: Chloroquine: A "New" Drug for Treating Fish Diseases” 2013. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2013/2/fish
  7. Miller, Bobby., “Tank Transfer Method” REEF2REEF, 2016. http://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tank-transfer-method.192655/
  8. Miller, Bobby., “TANK TERROR: Identifying And Treating Marine Velvet” REEF2REEF, 2015. http://reef2reef.com/ams/tank-terror-identifying-and-treating-marine-velvet.26/
  9. Leebca, “A Hyposalinity Treatment Process” Reef Sanctuary, 2007. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forum/index.php?threads/a-hyposalinity-treatment-process.23131/
  10. Lowry, Toby. D.V.M., “Short Take: Quarantine of Marine Fish (Teleost) Using Hyposalinity” Advanced Aquarist, November 2004. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2004/11/short
  11. “Marine Velvet (Amyloodinium ocellatum)” Ultimate Reef, 2007. http://www.ultimatereef.com/articles/marinevelvet/
 
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Thank you for posting this! :)
 

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Excellent article! Thanks for sharing!
 

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Wow. That's an interesting alternative. I do like that there is a method to address velvet without medication but 5 tanks at once is going to be hard for most to do IMO.

I'd love to see (or maybe I'll make one) a schedule that shows the life cycles and transfers overlaid in one place. I'm a visual person and I have a hard time seeing the progress over 5 transfers.
 

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Wow. That's an interesting alternative. I do like that there is a method to address velvet without medication but 5 tanks at once is going to be hard for most to do IMO.

I'd love to see (or maybe I'll make one) a schedule that shows the life cycles and transfers overlaid in one place. I'm a visual person and I have a hard time seeing the progress over 5 transfers.
5, 10 gallon tanks is a lot of realistate, filters and let alone the money and all this for one fish. And you still need qt tanks for new arrivals. I guess it's more or less a ttm with permanent tanks.
 

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Thanks for sharing!
Did not get what to do in the fifth tank day 13, you keep the fishes there until day 30, or you start over to tank 1?
 

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I don't understand the need for 5 tanks. Can you elaborate? Also can you reconcile why you think a 3 day transfer period would ride the fish of velvet while others have reported that it does not?
 

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Love the article, but I do have a concern with it. According to research I have seen, the entire lifecycle can be completed in as little as 3 days.

http://fisheries.tamu.edu/files/201...mportant-Parasite-of-Cultured-Marine-Fish.pdf

I've found sources I trust less that say the Tomont stage can hatch in less than 48 hrs. If this is the case, TTM would have to occur more frequently than stated in the article for marine velvet.

Wish there were more scientific studies of this lifecycle or that the data was more readily available.
 
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I made a really quick calendar of what this looks like, since that's how my brain works. If we follow the worst case of 3 days presented in @Brew12's source, this fish will be susceptible to infection on the day before you do your transfer. That would imply the transfer was ineffective, no? I just assumed each phase takes a day.

Transfer every three days:
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If you transfer every two days though, you do appear to outrun some of them by the second transfer. I assumed worst case here that the tomonts drop off immediately after putting the fish in the tank and the dinospores hatch in exactly 48 hours and find the fish immediately. If there is a 12 hour variant, as has been referred to, none of this would work.

Transfer every two days:
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I'm also clearly ignoring combinations of parasites with different life cycles. Am I missing anything else? Any blatant errors?
 

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I made a really quick calendar of what this looks like, since that's how my brain works. If we follow the worst case of 3 days presented in @Brew12's source, this fish will be susceptible to infection on the day before you do your transfer. That would imply the transfer was ineffective, no? I just assumed each phase takes a day.

Transfer every three days:
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If you transfer every two days though, you do appear to outrun some of them by the second transfer. I assumed worst case here that the tomonts drop off immediately after putting the fish in the tank and the dinospores hatch in exactly 48 hours and find the fish immediately. If there is a 12 hour variant, as has been referred to, none of this would work.

Transfer every two days:
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I'm also clearly ignoring combinations of parasites with different life cycles. Am I missing anything else? Any blatant errors?
Nice work! No blatant errors but I do see an omission. It appears that a trophont can leave the fish as early as 12 hrs. I have seen data that says it could also feed on a fish for up to 7 days. If a fish picked up a trophont on day 2 and dropped it 7 days later this would have it leaving the fish potentially on day 9. I think if you were going to try and make this effective for marine velvet you would need a minimum of 10 transfers every 48hrs.

It is important to remember that even when using TTM for ich, every transfer isn't redundant. It is designed to eliminate both the quickest and slowest trophonts. I believe that using every 3 days for TTM on ich only gives you 2 extra transfers. That isn't much margin for error.
 

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Nice work! No blatant errors but I do see an omission. It appears that a trophont can leave the fish as early as 12 hrs. I have seen data that says it could also feed on a fish for up to 7 days. If a fish picked up a trophont on day 2 and dropped it 7 days later this would have it leaving the fish potentially on day 9. I think if you were going to try and make this effective for marine velvet you would need a minimum of 10 transfers every 48hrs.

It is important to remember that even when using TTM for ich, every transfer isn't redundant. It is designed to eliminate both the quickest and slowest trophonts. I believe that using every 3 days for TTM on ich only gives you 2 extra transfers. That isn't much margin for error.
Got it. I will try and incorporate that in an easy to read visual and post again.
 

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I just want to clarify something real quick. I am not against the TTM method or saying that people shouldn't do it. What we are discussing is a worst case velvet situation. Odds are that TTM will work just fine for the majority of both ich and velvet strains. I would never want to give someone the impression that just because it may not be 100% foolproof that it shouldn't be used. Even if it is only effective in 90% of cases it is still much better than "dump and pray"!
 

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Hate to change representations mid-way through, but I'm now marking when dinospores are present.

With the two day transfer method:
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If you transfer every 48 hours, just before the 5th transfer you get caught again. This assumes the fish comes in with a tomont that stays attached for the maximum 7 days. It would mean in the 4th transfer dinospores are again present. I'll play with it some more with a varied schedule after the 4th transfer. You need to now worry about the 7 day variant which is attached to the fish since you seemingly no longer have the fastest variety.
 

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Mixed transfer duration: The blue blocks indicate the point where you outrun that variant.
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OK, now if I take 4 different lifecycles (1, 3, 5, and 7 days in trophont) you wind up with this kind of schedule. I'm leaving the tomont and dionspore stages as one day each which might be a bad assumption. But, if you do that, this schedule could let you out run all four variants in 10 days and 4 transfers. The first three transfers are after 48 hours, the fourth is after 24 hours. There are still other permutations too that I haven't tried.

All of this also assumes you outrun each variant as soon as you transfer away from it.
 
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And if there are trophonts with each of 1 - 7 day feeding times: the blue blocks indicate where you have outrun that variant
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That gets really messy and involves 8 transfers.
 
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Thank you all for your replies, analysis and to icecool2 for the charts! Yes, specifically regarding Marine Velvet, it is currently unknown exactly how effective either a 3 day or a 2 day transfer method would be. Part of the reason I incorporated the hunch was to entice further professional laboratory grade research in possible transfer methods that might work 100% of the time. First they would need a more detailed precise life cycle study based on hours instead of days. Then to run a series of studies with Amyloodinium to see concrete percentages and just how practical it would be for the hobbyist. Until then I will update the article to emphasize, for the average hobbyist like myself, that Copper is the only known proven cure for Marine Velvet. Thus if you suspect Marine Velvet or if you still have an infection after doing the transfers, then you will need to incorporate or switch over to a traditional copper treatment. As I mentioned, Jay Hemdal at the Toledo Aquarium uses a dual Copper / Hyposalinity Method, thus you could incorporate Copper from the beginning as well. This might sound like overkill yet the idea is to develop a clear holistic approach for marine quarantine methods that work 99.99% of the time, for just about everything out there, without having to micromanage every fish individually. Yes, this is a lot more work, yet bear in mind this becomes more and more practical and advantageous as you get into larger numbers of fish stock and investment levels to consider. Are you adding a damsel to a 20 gallon fish only or are you adding that damsel to a fully stocked 400 gallon mixed fish and coral reef system? What about a 400,000 gallon mixed reef? How much work will an infestation then entail?
 

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Hi, I would try to use only Seachem Paraguard for the first 15 day, and Prazipro on day 3 and 13 (i can not do transfer method). My questions are how effective of this regiment compare to transfer method or other? (Hope you have feed back for this method from other). Is this method good method for quarantine or effective to make sure the fish is ok before it is put in the display tank?? And how often I need to do water change if the Seachem Paraguard is dosed everyday (qd)? Also, salinity if I only use Paraguard, and prazipro should be normal level or should be hyposalinity? Thanks
 
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