Dinoflagellates - dinos a possible cure!? Follow along and see!

[brandon429]

its still getting pretty resounding reviews for bryopsis and valonia, but its accepted target spread is closing. that's a -1 for invasive dinos there.

 

[Oshkosh]

What is the verdict on Vibrant dosing to these dino challenge tanks here, its been out long enough to make waves here if applicable

why are people still using bleach if Vibrant can kill the dinos (not sure if that's the case, checking w the crowd)

My verdict on vibrant is the same as Mondrieu, didn't do much and I was dosing twice a week and still have the slimy brown/opaque film on rocks an sand. The only relief I've found was taking each rock out and soak in a hydrogen peroxide solution for 15 mins. Of course the film comes back in several weeks since the pores are in sand, overflow, etc

 

[puffy127]

I dosed vibrant for over 3 months at 2x weekly. It did nothing for my dinos.

 

[Second Shot]

I have been dosing vibrant since beginning of November. It took over two months of twice weekly dosing for signs of my dinos to go away. I haven't seen any strings or bubbles in several weeks now. I'm sure they are still in the tank in low numbers somewhere. I had an ostreo variety fwiw.

 

[The new fish on the block]

Will prime neutralize the bleach in the water?

 

[Paullawr]

Yes it will. Alternatively hydrogen peroxide.

 

[The new fish on the block]

Yes it will. Alternatively hydrogen peroxide.

Ok. Thank you

 

[Jolanta]

I have been dosing vibrant since beginning of November. It took over two months of twice weekly dosing for signs of my dinos to go away. I haven't seen any strings or bubbles in several weeks now. I'm sure they are still in the tank in low numbers somewhere. I had an ostreo variety fwiw.

I put the dose number 6 yesterday, my corals look already much better but I still see my dinos reproducing, You made water changes during Vibrant? When did you start to see en inprovement? I have Ostreopsis Ovata.

 

[domination2580]

I put the dose number 6 yesterday, my corals look already much better but I still see my dinos reproducing, You made water changes during Vibrant? When did you start to see en inprovement? I have Ostreopsis Ovata.

What percentage have you been using as far as bleach...

 

[mandrieu]

Will prime neutralize the bleach in the water?

Yes. Prime, or Amquel. They remove chlorine and neutralize ammonia. I don't normally need it because I use RODI, but I always keep a bottle around for my quarantine tank, to deal with ammonia spikes

 

[Jolanta]

What percentage have you been using as far as bleach...

I'm scared to use bleach using only Vibrant for now.

 

[dnahas]

There has only been a couple issues I had after dosing bleach.. nothing showed while dosing.. only after stopping.. GBTA bleached.. I think the bleach also killed the dinos in the BTA.. no more mini stars...strange green algae(like really short GHA) ... but I did not lose anything... I ran no carbon or GFO.. skimmer was only thing running..

How are the BTA's recovering? Does anyone else have anything to report on BTA's?

 

[badd]

Just been feeding bta.. still eats great..

 

[badd]

You can see how bleach the bta is..was bright green..till right after dosing

 

[The new fish on the block]

Does any one know if bleach can kill brooklynella?

 

[Second Shot]

I put the dose number 6 yesterday, my corals look already much better but I still see my dinos reproducing, You made water changes during Vibrant? When did you start to see en inprovement? I have Ostreopsis Ovata.

I don't remember exactly how long. I want to say it took a solid two months though. If you really wanted to know, I posted updates in the main vibrant thread. If I get a few minutes I will look through my posts and see.
What I did notice is they would ebb and flow. Things would look really clear and then a bit of a bloom before fading again. Possibly from dinos coming out of the sand etc.

Oh and yes I still performed water changes.

 

[Paullawr]

Does any one know if bleach can kill brooklynella?

Probably would but then you are fully exposing a weakened damsel to chlorine. Which incidentally burns their gills, an area already being affected by ciliates.

 

[Paullawr]

You can see how bleach the bta is..was bright green..till right after dosing

Keep up the good work, target feed. Zoos will return in time... Just takes while with bleached nems.

 

[domination2580]

I'm scared to use bleach using only Vibrant for now.

Good luck!

 

[Paullawr]

I'm scared to use bleach using only Vibrant for now.

I followed the vibrant thread almost religiously.

IMO I'd say it had a high reported success rate. Far more than coincidences or other factors. Still not 100%. Again must be other factors involved.

Continue with vibrant for now, but if it doesn't clear it then move to bleach.

To be honest bleaching whilst Dino's have been knocked back IE by dark/h202 or vibrant or kalk slurry hits will hurt them far harder.

Re-emergence or new blooms are not just cysts entering the water column. These things multiply fast.

Remember bacteria divide....Think about it that way. Every few minutes a division in cells.

Protists duplicate through multiple fission, binary fission, sexual reproduction and budding from parent cells.

That's why you can suck them up then two hours later be looking at the same mess.