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User Manual for Core7 Base Elements
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gpwdr
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The instructions say to;
Core7 Base Elements should be dosed into an area of high current, preferably into the algae refugium.
I have been dosing into the return section of the sump not in the algae refugium section.
Was this a miss print?
I'm using the Triton Sump.
Core7 Base Elements should be dosed into an area of high current, preferably into the algae refugium.
I have been dosing into the return section of the sump not in the algae refugium section.
Was this a miss print?
I'm using the Triton Sump.
OP
OP
No it is not, the Core7 should be dosed directly into the algae, the original Base elements into the return.
kc350twin
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Hello. I have the Core7 on order and there is two different dosing instructions that I have seen. The website description says the dose is 2.85 ml per 50gals. The PDF says 2ml per 100 liters of water which my covert app states is 26gals.
Which should I start at?
Which should I start at?
OP
OP
Can you show me where on the website you got that info from?
The starting dose should be 2ml per 100L and adjust from there.
The starting dose should be 2ml per 100L and adjust from there.
OP
OP
The calculator on the website is for water removal, you use that if you find that your salinity is increasing.
The starting dose is 2ml per 100L and adjust from there.
I will get them to correct the website.
The starting dose is 2ml per 100L and adjust from there.
I will get them to correct the website.
lexinverts
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I think they got that figure from the notion that the New CORE7 elements are 7x the concentration of the original Base Elementz.
It seems like the recommendation for the new Core7 elementz is to start with a slightly higher dose, when corrected for units of product, than was the recommendation for the Base Elementz. Or am I missing something here?
The standard Elementz recommend a starting dose of 10ml per 100L
The Core7 recommend a starting dose of 2 ml per 100L
These two doses differ by a factor of 5, rather than a factor of 7.
A starting dose of 1.5 ml per 100L makes sense if the Core7 is in fact 7x the concentration of the Base Elementz. (Or 2.85 per 50 gallons as it says on the UC website.)
This is important to nail down, because I am about to switch to the new product from my Base elementz and I am correcting the dosage based on a 7x difference in concentration.
It seems like the recommendation for the new Core7 elementz is to start with a slightly higher dose, when corrected for units of product, than was the recommendation for the Base Elementz. Or am I missing something here?
The standard Elementz recommend a starting dose of 10ml per 100L
The Core7 recommend a starting dose of 2 ml per 100L
These two doses differ by a factor of 5, rather than a factor of 7.
A starting dose of 1.5 ml per 100L makes sense if the Core7 is in fact 7x the concentration of the Base Elementz. (Or 2.85 per 50 gallons as it says on the UC website.)
This is important to nail down, because I am about to switch to the new product from my Base elementz and I am correcting the dosage based on a 7x difference in concentration.
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OP
OP
Hi Andy don't get the starting dose confused with the strength of the solutions.
The old base elements were as you rightly say designed to start at 10ml per 100L and adjust the dose from there, with the new formula Core7 it has been deemed safe to start the dose at 2ml per 100L. In neither case will the dose ever stay at its starting dose as the method is not designed to work that way, it's not based on water volume rather consumption from the corals themselves, so in both cases the dose is adjusted to maintain the dKH of 8, higher or lower than the start point of 10ml or 2ml per 100L.
We have to start somewhere though right?
Really the only way that you can compare the strengths of the two solutions is by changing over from one to the other, then you divide your current dose by 7 and that is your dose of Core7.
A little caveat I would like to add though is that Core7 is a totally new formula and from personal experience and from seeing many customers over here in the UK, coral growth increases again from the already fast growth when running Core7 over original Base Elements so their dosage increases mostly for a few weeks during the transition but this led early adopters thinking that the Core7 was weaker than advertised, however in most cases (I think all) the dose returned back to it's pre changeover equivalent and then just reflected the increased growth.
Hopefully this answers your question.
The old base elements were as you rightly say designed to start at 10ml per 100L and adjust the dose from there, with the new formula Core7 it has been deemed safe to start the dose at 2ml per 100L. In neither case will the dose ever stay at its starting dose as the method is not designed to work that way, it's not based on water volume rather consumption from the corals themselves, so in both cases the dose is adjusted to maintain the dKH of 8, higher or lower than the start point of 10ml or 2ml per 100L.
We have to start somewhere though right?
Really the only way that you can compare the strengths of the two solutions is by changing over from one to the other, then you divide your current dose by 7 and that is your dose of Core7.
A little caveat I would like to add though is that Core7 is a totally new formula and from personal experience and from seeing many customers over here in the UK, coral growth increases again from the already fast growth when running Core7 over original Base Elements so their dosage increases mostly for a few weeks during the transition but this led early adopters thinking that the Core7 was weaker than advertised, however in most cases (I think all) the dose returned back to it's pre changeover equivalent and then just reflected the increased growth.
Hopefully this answers your question.
lexinverts
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Thank you for the clarification.
d2mini
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Tim, why is this?
My sump and equipment layout was specifically designed to dose into the return area based on the old Base Elements.
Does it really matter much?
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