“High end sps”

Discussion in 'General SPS Discussion' started by chopsie, Jan 25, 2018.

  1. pirate2876

    pirate2876 Valuable Member

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    This is a solid synopsis. +1
     
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  2. Z3speed4me

    Z3speed4me Active Member

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    Fresh mariculture also don't always live after transport.
    Where can I get a WD for $75? from you guys @FraghouseCorals ?
     
  3. pirate2876

    pirate2876 Valuable Member

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    This is true up until the coral dies.
     
  4. BoomCorals

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    Was wondering that myself. That’s cheaper than I can get it lol. :D
     
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  5. x2uranium

    x2uranium Active Member

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    True, but I won't sit there and cry about how I lost the money on coral lol. It's life.
     
  6. codydemmel4

    codydemmel4 Valuable Member

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    Very true.
     
  7. FraghouseCorals

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    LOL I wish but I can FOR SURE direct you to the right person.... theres a few LOL hit me up PM brotha I have a person you can get one right now for that price... straight off their website too
     
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    Peng Active Member R2R Supporter

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    Every once a while this type of threads appear. Be it the naming game, the high end game, the chop shop game, etc...
    It really can be anything. While some like to complain about chop shops or name attachers, my opinion tends to be that it's actually a good thing that we have such a variety of different vendors and corals out there that everyone can get their needs met. Whether a homewrecker or Ultra XXXL is worth the money is completely one's personal decision to make. Many of us are willing to pay several hundred dollars for a small frag of tenuis that has splendid colors while many don't. But what I don't like is when those other guys who don't think a homewrecker is worth the money start coming out bashing the people who buy homewreckers. Or coming out against chop shops (which barely exist nowadays) or other vendors who are not exclusively aquaculture, against mariculture/wild colonies, or pointing fingers at vendors here that take photos under blue LED. I'm not a fan of blue LED pictures. I never buy such ones but that's just my decision and there's no place for me to point fingers at them. The best way is just not to buy it.
     
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    ajcanale Active Member R2R Supporter

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    I agree with so much of this, but chop shop/flip it/mariculture vendor’s are more common now than ever before.
     
  10. Rslinger

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    Dang I don’t think I will ever pay $600 for a coral though I did buy a frag framers red something, myogi tort, a WWC something, something rainbow. All of these frags for $100 total lol.

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    WD are $50 a frag at one of the LFS here. They are not shippers and the local market is saturated for people want a brown/green tenius.
     
  12. Norcalreef

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    One of the most true, best posts I’ve seen. In my other hobby I keep some high end stuff. I constantly have people posting complaining about price or trying to low ball. Why is it so hard for people just to move on if they don’t like something?
     
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    I think it's great. Can buy coral just as pretty as "high end" for a fraction of the price that look as good if not better.

    It seems to be what is really driving this trend is people wanting to cash in on their hobby. It is expensive so I understand, but almost every single person I know locally that buys expensive corals is doing so to frag it out and sell, not just to keep personally and have a huge colony. Nothing wrong with that, and I know some people buy the coral to keep it, but I can't think of a single person I know locally that don't plan on selling frags.
     
  14. van7271

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    It’s all motivated by people with more money than brains. It’s always been and will probably always be.
     
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    How come someone who has money is stupid? It’s all relative, what’s expensive to some is chump change to others. I know through my life, my idea of what is expensive has changed a lot, I see the value in things a lot more. Growing coral is definitely not the business to be in if you’re looking to get rich quick. They take a lot of time and overhead to grow.
     
  16. David S

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    I have a Walt Disney & Homewrecker Tenuis.
    The Walt Disney I've had for about 20 months and the Homewrecker about 5 months.
    The Disney originally was a 1/2"frag and the Homewrecker was smaller than that.
    The WD has grown into a nice mini colony and I'm considering cutting some of the branches for trade with my LFS.
    The Homewrecker has fully encrusted and I may get frags from it by the end of the year.

    My experience with these acros is that they are 1. not slow growing and 2. rather hardy (let me knock on wood). As a matter of fact, in the time period I've had my WD I had some minor crashes in the tank which resulted in the death of a few of my Acro's.

    Perhaps it's the specific conditions in my tank, but I find it a bit puzzling that given the relative resilience of the WD and Homewrecker, their prices haven't come down more.
     
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    Says the person who is probably envious of those of us who spend a lot on coral. It's not a competition.
     
  18. BantyRooster97

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    It's a vicious but terrific cycle! Buy expensive coral, grow it, frag it, sell it (make someone else happy), buy another piece of coral, repeat... whats the problem? Every person on this forum wants to make money, one way or another. Why, to STAY IN THIS HOBBY!
    High end, what's high end as far as anything goes???? Limited supply + high demand = high end!

    Also, saw someone post that the WD was a brown and green frag... maybe under old school dated lighting. I swapped a frag of ORA pearlberry for a nub of WD and that thing is awesome! But I have up to date LED & T5 lighting, so it pops.

    @FraghouseCorals well said... everything!

    I don't know if Jason Fox ever reads stuff like this, but he has some of the best corals around. I have numerous & all have great color & stay nice!
     
  19. BantyRooster97

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    Also, where are these "chop shops"? Not exactly sure who, so if you don't want to broadcast, pm me... want to avoid
     
  20. FraghouseCorals

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    There are a few legit vendors that aquaculture.... the rest are all pretty much chop shops lol
     
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