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I’ve never heard of one outlet for a heater. Where did you read that?
Thank you for the info. On another note is it possible to put 2 heaters on one outlet with a Y connector. I might not have a spare outlet on the energy bar for 2 heaters.Use two separate outlets on the energy bar. You can change the outlet types in Fusion. Change the control type (seen in the picture) on one of the outlets you are not using to a heater outlet. (This prevents a failure if one outlet goes bad.) You can then set each outlet individually. I run three heaters in my system. The system uses two on a regular basis, but the third will come on, at about .3 degrees below the others, if one of the others fail or the temperature starts to fall because the house is suddenly very cold. Any two of the heaters are sufficient to heat the aquarium, but no one heater is capable of heating the aquarium to the point of killing everything by itself. This guards against a heater sticking on, which should be impossible with the Apex monitoring temperature. Hope this helps.
Can I put 2 heaters on this one outlet?
Thank you for the info. On another note is it possible to put 2 heaters on one outlet with a Y connector. I might not have a spare outlet on the energy bar for 2 heaters.
I was watching the Neptune video which shows outlet 4 pre set for a heater.
I agree with Xoomercom's recommendations. Separate outlets for safety and staged on/off temps. This is how I run mine also.
May I also suggest another failsafe.. Set the heaters to turn off (with their internal thermometer) at 1 degree F higher than the apex turns off at. That way if for any reason the Apex fails on, your heater is set to only 1 degree F higher.
On both my tanks I have it done similarly, both heaters set at 78, the apex cuts power to the heater at 78.5 or below 50. <- Important.
It is worth noting that if a temperature probe fails, it almost always fails in a low condition. A failed probe typically reads 20.7*F. You could cook your tank unless you have the failsafe that "If temp <50 then off" on your heater!!!
On both my tanks I have it done similarly, both heaters set at 78, the apex cuts power to the heater at 78.5 or below 50. <- Important.
It is worth noting that if a temperature probe fails, it almost always fails in a low condition. A failed probe typically reads 20.7*F. You could cook your tank unless you have the failsafe that "If temp <50 then off" on your heater!!!
I'd bump it up from 50, the reason I have the following : If Tmp < 71.0 Then OFF
is because that covers both scenarios; the probe failing or somehow being pulled out of the water and measuring room temp.
Old thread here... can you explain to a newbie what the "defer 003:00 Then ON" achieves? I gather it's an intentional lag of sorts... but for what?Here is a paste from similar thread I responded to recently...
I have them come ON in stages so if 1st one comes on and doesn't keep up or fails the second one comes on, etc.
Heater 1
Fallback OFF
If Tmp < 77.5 Then ON
If Tmp > 77.7 Then OFF
If Tmp < 71.0 Then OFF
Defer 003:00 Then ON
Defer 003:00 Then OFF
If Output ReturnPump = OFF Then OFF
Heater 2
Fallback OFF
If Tmp < 77.3 Then ON
If Tmp > 77.7 Then OFF
If Tmp < 71.0 Then OFF
Defer 001:00 Then ON
Defer 003:00 Then OFF
If Output ReturnPump = OFF Then OFF
etc
They are also connected to different EBs on different circuits.
Old thread here... can you explain to a newbie what the "defer 003:00 Then ON" achieves? I gather it's an intentional lag of sorts... but for what?
I am guessing that the If Tmp < 71.0 Then OFF is in case the heater ends up in air? Otherwise not sure of reason for this line of code.Here is a paste from similar thread I responded to recently...
I have them come ON in stages so if 1st one comes on and doesn't keep up or fails the second one comes on, etc.
Heater 1
Fallback OFF
If Tmp < 77.5 Then ON
If Tmp > 77.7 Then OFF
If Tmp < 71.0 Then OFF
Defer 003:00 Then ON
Defer 003:00 Then OFF
If Output ReturnPump = OFF Then OFF
Heater 2
Fallback OFF
If Tmp < 77.3 Then ON
If Tmp > 77.7 Then OFF
If Tmp < 71.0 Then OFF
Defer 001:00 Then ON
Defer 003:00 Then OFF
If Output ReturnPump = OFF Then OFF
etc
They are also connected to different EBs on different circuits.