A R2R Spotlight: "Purple People Eater" (PPE)

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-Where to start! The PPE color strain may be labeled as the catalyst for the naming trend, and the $$$$ per polyp sales. These "Zoanthus gigantus" first started with Blane Perun from www.farms-of-thesea.com in 2001. Here is more of the story from his website.

" I obtained this colony by chance in or around 2001. .. After about 1 year the specimen began coloring up and I sold off about 15 fragments for $25-$35 bucks each, ironically most of these people complained about the piece when they go it. The colony at that time still was not mature, not reaching it's fully beauty. The following year I sold propagation's for about $40 bucks and people were outraged. So I stopped but soon saw them selling on ebay for about $200."
http://www.farms-of-thesea.com/catalog/fund_drive.html

Blane continues on to describe how he turned his big money corals into a means to sponsor charities. His website describes a bit more about this topic. After reading it you get a great feeling about Blane as a retailer and a person, so make sure to check out the link above.

More background below.

Lighting:
- PPEs may be a more sensitive Zoanthus that prefers a lower location in the tank. Acclimation should be done under indirect light or in a more shaded area. Once your PPEs have adjusted to your tank conditions/lights it has been suggested that the best coloration comes from a low - low/medium placement.

Flow:
- Medium flow with a chaotic pattern preferred. Medium flow is enough to shake the skirts but not enough force the polyp to close. Trial and error may be needed, but it is always safer to start with a lower flow and add more.

Feeding:
- Some hobbiests have noticed a feeding behavior from these Zoanthus gigantus. Keep in mind that larger Zoanthus gigantus and Palythoas have shown food capturing responses. While this is a case by case basis it is not a must for this color strain.

Origins:
- The Caribbeans

Rarity:
- Still a rather rare color strain, the PPE has seen more trading recently and still demands a rather high dollar per polyp price.

ID Confusions:
As one of the most sought after zoas there are a lot of imposters and look a likes. The key to IDing PPEs is the clear and defined colors. There are only 2 colors in this strain. Bright green skirt, purple disc, and a distinctive green slit mouth. PPE's are Zoanthus gigantus (as are all people eaters that I know of). The white striping on the underside of the polyp along with the green slit mouth seem to be the indicators.

Other info:
It has been mentioned that another, or original, source of these Zoanthus may have been Bryan (Logical Reef). This is still being confirmed at this time.

The PPE not only started the IDing trend but it also set a label to the distinctive green slit mouth we now see in the hobby. Whenever another color combination with a green mouth is seen in the hobby it gets the "_PE" name added to it.

A lot of serious collectors want a "Certificate of Authenticity" for this color strain. With so many similar color patterns out there, the serious collector likes to know how a particular PPE frag descended from Blane's original colony. Keep in mind that some do not even consider new wild colonies to be true PPEs with conversations about authenticity getting real crazy.

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I'm sure this Spotlight will get more responses than the last, but if you have any information or pics for the following, then please post:
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BTW if anybody knows if this coral is a

Palytho, Protopalythoa, or Zoanthid.... Please let me know.
 

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If I recall right, Blane got his first PPEs from Bryan when he had The Logical Reef. I'm sure Bryan will chime in. ;)
 

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Here is mine, I got it from a member here on Club-zoa.com.....It is still coloring up at this time has 2 new polyps starting.....I have mine about midway up in the rock work and under a quite abit of flow....I have feed it and it will accept small bits of mysis or cyclop-eeze.

Lighting....

250 watts mh 14k hamilton about 6-7 inchs from the surface of the water.
Supplimented with 220 VHO 1x 110 watts white actinic and 1x 110 watts of 03 super actinic.

I would have posted on the mean greens but that is one I am still looking for......:(
 
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Here's mine. I've had 3 different frags from different sources. These are the most intense of the 3.


Here are some imposters. Jokers.
 

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For me, my PPE do not like lots of light, and the kelvin of your light will dictate the actual color of the PPE. Ive never spot fed them and the growth is about a polyp a month :?
When I first got them they looked like this:



Me being stupid moved them from that overhang into direct 250 watt Hamilton 14k light ~ which for some reason appears more like 10 k. One ballast with the 14k appears a nice bluish color while the other ballast (icecap) makes the bulb appear more towards 10k. This is what they looked like after about 8 months:



I have since moved them to the other side of the tank where they bluer light is. Its been around a month and a half and already notice the purple coming back. :D The two polyps that are inverted have already recovered, I thought they were goners but turned around nicely. These are the most recent pics I have~3-4 weeks ago. I will try to get more pics of them.



 

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Mine aren't colored up yet after being in with the 250W DE's. They seem to do about the same anywhere I put them. They have started putting on polyps a little faster since I moved them under the 175W 15K's.

PPE's are Zoanthus gigantus (as are all people eaters that I know of). The white striping on the underside of the polyp along with the green slit mouth seem to be the indicators.
 
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I've updated some of the information, but I'm still looking for some key tidbits. Flow? Are they a typical medium flow, or are they like Palys and enjoy high flow?

The response so far has been good! Keep thos pics and comments coming.

BTW, I hope you guys don't mind me stealing :twisted: your comments.
 
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I also remember someone elses PPE that acquired white spots on the face of the polyp from recieving too high and intense light. They retained the spots; however, the new emerging polyps didnt have the spots after being moved. I know Mfinn has ppe's, is he on here?
 

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My ppe all strains did well under light. I ran 400's and they all did well, Granted they were at the bottom, But i could keep clams very happy at the bottom of the tank too.
I get moderate growth out of them. Def now slow growers for me.
 

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I have mine under 250watt de's and they have to be kept at the bottom or they get speckles and almost a dark reddish color to them. I have them between 2 tunze streams and I've never had them close up due to being in high flow.
 

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Well my story about the PPE is a sad one... Me and a friend went in on an ebay auction for a 2 polyp frag of the PPE's and paid $180 with shipping for the two polyps... I know, what were you thinking coralnutz. :lol:

So we got them and on the rubble that they were on the mat wasn't connecting the polyps so we just broke the rubble in half and I took one polyp home. Mine never did open and just melted away. :( My friend ended up selling out all his tanks and corals so I don't know where his frag went, when he did have it though it wasn't growing.

I would love to get some more but will just wait until I can get them in a trade or something. BTW, it's my birthday on the 26th of September if someone wants to send me a sweet gift of PPE's, just pm me for the address. :lol:
 

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I have read when they are inverted and other palys for that matter it means they are unhappy!


Here are mine. I just got them this week in a trade, the polyp in the back you can't see has the spots from too much direct light. I have them under low/medium flow about 20" from my PC lights.





 

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One guy I know traded 3 polyps for a calcium reactor, no joke... Crazy how hard it is to get them. I finally got some... and I think I am going to keep trying to get more and add them to one rock to make a colony... they are soooo beautiful, very calming colors... Like looking at the purply night sky when the stars are behind clouds, imo.

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