Acan Lord and chalice tissue recession

[Dsnakes]

Hopefully you'll start to see them fully expand soon.

 

[Reefrookie220]

Chalice are slow to recover, just remember to raise these levels slowly.

Looks like you're in the right track, keep us updated

 

[tangerine3486]

Thanks for all of the help, my tank is looking happier, especially the acans.

Nitrates up to about 1.5 ppm with phosphates at .16 ppm this morning. My target is 5 ppm Nitrates to do a water change and skim.

 

[Reefrookie220]

Thanks for all of the help, my tank is looking happier, especially the acans.

Nitrates up to about 1.5 ppm with phosphates at .16 ppm this morning. My target is 5 ppm Nitrates to do a water change and skim.

Great news!

A few follow up tidbits

Try to keep your phosphates at that level, or below as we don't want algae to set in.

Nitrates at 5 isn't a bad idea, but keep in mind you may have to adjust your water change amount to keep them there.

Chalice corals are especially slow to recover (new growth) than most other corals, in my experience anyway. So don't be worried if they look nice and puffy but still show signs they were receding, they will bounce back over time.

Good luck buddy! Keep us posted and PICS!

 

[tangerine3486]

Oh I love pics. I just took these. Top two demonstrate the color loss over the past month in the acro:
On Left

Same one a month later:

Acan I think is turning around:
Before

Today

Looking like he is getting some algae.

The ones that are happier. I have not seen the tentacles out regularly in the day in a while.

 

[Reefrookie220]

Awesome!

 

[tangerine3486]

Did tests Friday and Today, with a water change yesterday. Did a half dose of components 1, 2, 3 on sat.

(8/4) (8/7)
dKH 7.9 7.5
Ca 400 390
Mg 1330 1340
PO4 .08 .08
NO3 3 4+


I'm going to take pics, continue to feed brine cubes, dose the recommended component amount today and tomorrow, and do tests on Wed with a high range NO3 test.

Everyone is looking happier, even the acros.

 

[tangerine3486]

Just saw last post did not appear to be in table format, will try again.

Between 7 Aug and this afternoon, I have fed, and dosed 80 mL of component 1+,2+,3+

             4-Aug      7-Aug        9-Aug
dKH         7.9          7.5           8
Ca          400         390            390
Mg         1330        1340          1320
PO4      0.08         0.08           0.12
NO3         3             4             8

Any thoughts?

 

[tangerine3486]

Taking a closer look at the acans, I think I am seeing recession still. Those rainbow ones on the above pictures, the side babies do not seem to be doing well. Either sleeping right now or its of concern. I did not have many side documentation photos of them, so i just took one for future comparison.

This is a short segment I'm calling Bad/Good.
Bad:

The Good?

 

[tangerine3486]

A slightly better picture of a sad acan:

 

[jsker]

Acons like the water dirty, meaning your nitrates could be a bit higher. I would also look at dropping you phosphates down to a .o2. What are you testing with? What AF salt are you using?

 

[tangerine3486]

I am using regular reef salt, for several months. I am testing nitrate and phosphate with red Sea, calcium and magnesium with Salifert, and ALK with Hannah digital.

Would I need a gfo reactor to lower the phosphates while continuing heavier feeding to raise the nitrates?

 

[tangerine3486]

Testing and pictures today. Since 9 Aug, I have done no dosing of Component +1, +2, +3. I have done AF vitality, AF amino mix, AF energy. Have been spot feeding meaty foods 3/4 nights. Clearly need to adjust dKH. Guess I need to dosing Component maintains dKH properly - does what it is supposed to do. Not sure if low alk will cause the tissue on the acan to be this damaged. Thinking of dipping in revive.

             4-Aug      7-Aug        9-Aug        13-Aug
dKH         7.9          7.5           8               6.6
Ca          400         390            390           400
Mg         1330        1340          1320        1320
PO4      0.08         0.08           0.12         .16
NO3         3             4             8                8

one of the heads is completely gone now. Crab could have gotten away when eating the algae. Everyone else seems alright, need more side shot comparisons of those baby/dying heads.

This guy looks OK but sometimes his tissue does not look the happiest.

 

[tangerine3486]

Last Friday (8/18) tested water:
Mg-1350
Ca-400
ALK-8.6
PO4-.08
NO3-16

I also took samples and sent to Aquamedic.
08-21-2017 Ammonia (NH3-4) Good 0 0.000 - 0.050 mg/L
08-21-2017 Nitrite (NO2) Good 0.021 0.000 - 0.100 mg/L
08-21-2017 Phosphate (PO4) Good 0.01 0.000 - 0.250 mg/L
08-21-2017 Nitrate (NO3) Good 14 0.000 - 25.000 mg/L
08-21-2017 Silica (Sio2-3) High 0.8 0.000 - 0.500 mg/L
08-21-2017 Potassium (K) Good 384 350.000 - 450.000 mg/L
08-21-2017 Ionic Calcium (Ca) Good 152 100.000 - 400.000 mg/L
08-21-2017 Boron (B) NA NA 3.000 - 6.000 mg/L
08-21-2017 Molybdenum (Mo) Good 0.1 0.000 - 0.300 mg/L
08-21-2017 Strontium (Sr) Good 8 5.000 - 12.000 mg/L
08-21-2017 Magnesium (Mg) High 1420 1100.000 - 1400.000 mg/L
08-21-2017 Iodine (I) Good 0.03 0.030 - 0.090 mg/L
08-21-2017 Copper (Cu) Good 0.05 0.000 - 0.100 mg/L
08-21-2017 Alkalinity (meq/L) Good 3.1 2.500 - 5.000 meq/L (8.68dKH)
08-21-2017 Total Calcium (Ca) Good 410 350.000 - 450.000 mg/L

Thoughts? other than my Mg test was way off and that it seems high. Not sure if that is too high. Silica?

 

[nkyreef]

I'm following along in hopes of your solution helping a similar problem that I'm having. Two separate acan frags and one blasto are mine. My LFS suggested I adjust my lighting intensity down. Like you I have a a360 but only have it maxed out at 40% intensity for 3 hours. Have you moved the acans around to try different lighting scenarios?

 

[tangerine3486]

I'm following along in hopes of your solution helping a similar problem that I'm having. Two separate acan frags and one blasto are mine. My LFS suggested I adjust my lighting intensity down. Like you I have a a360 but only have it maxed out at 40% intensity for 3 hours. Have you moved the acans around to try different lighting scenarios?

I have lowered the frag rack a little and reduced the intensity/ duration. I did not see significant improvement. Well, I saw some improvement in some areas to be specific. All of my LPS (Acans, lobo, candy canes) are pretty inflated and almost always have the feelers out. They seem happy but there is still some tissue recession.

I did tests yesterday, but check out the Aquamedic testing from last week:

NO3-12
PO4-.1
Alk-5.8 (was gone for a week, but it is back up now)
Ca-390
Mg-1350

Following pictures hopefully document some of the continuing recession. Everything else seems to be happy.

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These are doing well:
2-3 new heads in the past week

Best color I have seen him yet

 

[tangerine3486]

Setting up carbon and gfo reactor today.

 

[jsker]

Just a suggestion, I finally go my nitrates in line with the life bio fil and a tiny bit of the zeomixt. Your parameter look good and as is stated earlier Acons like the water dirty and low light or bottom of the tank. Man those are some great shots of the corals.

I have one acon that is withering away and is in the direct flow, but I also have two that are doing well. The two that are doing well and low, and not in direct flow if the helps?

 

[tangerine3486]

Just a suggestion, I finally go my nitrates in line with the life bio fil and a tiny bit of the zeomixt. Your parameter look good and as is stated earlier Acons like the water dirty and low light or bottom of the tank. Man those are some great shots of the corals.

I have one acon that is withering away and is in the direct flow, but I also have two that are doing well. The two that are doing well and low, and not in direct flow if the helps?

That does help, I will move them to the bottom. There is low flow-power head is not pointing at them, but enough to see some movement. I will drop them down tonight though.

 

[tangerine3486]

Moved the rack with the acans all the way to the sand.

Bottom head is not as happy as he was 2 weeks ago :/