AI Hydra Translation of SPS AB+

[Charlie’s Frags]

How many 26’s and how many watts are your settings generating

 

[Tangina20]

How many 26’s and how many watts are your settings generating

2 and they are both at 43watts

 

[ReefInskeep]

It happened shortly after this thread was posted. Guess I started a new thread for the video and didn't post it in this one. Whoops.

Here you go.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/can-you-radion-ab-on-an-ai-hydra-askbrstv.464667/

You guys still haven’t done PAR testing on the 52 HD. Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate & watch everything you guys do. But, I’m an owner of the 52 HD, it’s AI’s flagship product (has been for years), you sell many, and I am just surprised it hasn’t been given the same evaluation as other lights.

The Hydra 26 HD isn’t the same thing as the 52, and doesn’t spread light the same way.

So will BRS do a Hydra 52 HD video with PAR testing and everything you normally do when you evaluate & dive into lights?

...I know I’d be pretty disappointed if you don’t.

 

[FLReefer]

#AskBrstv #RandyBrs
Can you guys verify this with a spectrometer?

quoting, Stephen Mc Gowen
“Last week the question came up about the equivalent percentages for the BRStv SPS AB+ Spectrum program. BRStv shared their settings for an AI Prime HD and there are lots of variations on this schedule available, as a download from this page. The question that was asked was if there was a translation of this for a 52 HD. Although the 52 HD is 4 LED pucks, to the Prime HDs 1 puck, the power available on each channel isn't just a 4 times what you'd get from a Prime. So I pulled together the data and worked out the equivalent values for the SPS AB+ program for a Prime HD, a 26 HD and a 52HD.

For those who only want the results, here they are. The percentages are given to 2 decimal places, which obviously you can't do in the app but the values can just be rounded to the nearest whole number:

26 HD:
UV - 117.98% (ie. max)
Violet - 101.27%
Royal - 82.34%
Blue - 64.64%
Green - 5.54%
Deep Red - 5.16%
Cool White - 19.03%

Honestly I don't think there's a lot of difference for a 26HD, I'm not convinced it will make a huge difference. Overall it uses almost 3.5 Watts less power, so adjusting to this may meant less PAR getting to your coral.

52 HD:
UV - 156.40% (ie. max)
Violet - 135.11%
Royal - 118.87%
Blue - 77.21%
Green - 10.55%
Deep Red - 8.83%
Cool White - 27.10%

This program is very different. It makes use of the HD range of the Royal colour channel as well. It also uses an additional 12 Watts of power, than the standard AB+ program, so it should meant significantly more PAR getting to your corals.

Now, for those who are interested in how I came up with these numbers. The AI lights have a max amount of milliWatts (mW) they can handle and a max amount of mW per colour channel as well. Using this I worked out the total amount of mW used by the SPS AB+ program and then worked out the percentage of that total that was allocated to each channel. At this point I have to make an assumption, that the color spectrum of each colour channel, will stay the same, no matter how much power is being driven through it...as far as I know, because of how LEDs work, this is a fair assumption (open to critics of this, if I'm wrong). Lastly I calculated the equivalent power distribution between all of the colour channels, for the Hydra 26 HD and Hydra 52 HD, before converting everything back to percentages, to share.

If anyone has any questions about how this all worked, or criticisms let me know. The data behind the numbers above can be seen at this link. David Garcia thanks for the help”

Thanks for all the information. Should these setting run for a 8 hour period with a 2 hour ramp up and down?

 

[Charlie’s Frags]

You guys still haven’t done PAR testing on the 52 HD. Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate & watch everything you guys do. But, I’m an owner of the 52 HD, it’s AI’s flagship product (has been for years), you sell many, and I am just surprised it hasn’t been given the same evaluation as other lights.

The Hydra 26 HD isn’t the same thing as the 52, and doesn’t spread light the same way.

So will BRS do a Hydra 52 HD video with PAR testing and everything you normally do when you evaluate & dive into lights?

...I know I’d be pretty disappointed if you don’t.

What is your set up? I have 2 52 HD’s over my 50 gallon cube and a par meter

 

[Charlie’s Frags]

2 and they are both at 43watts

I’ll check that for you tomorrow when I get back home

 

[Charlie’s Frags]

2 and they are both at 43watts

So I have my 2 hydra 52 HD’s mounted 16” above my 50 gallon.

So I used your settings and adjusted them to 51 watts per fixture, 102 watts total

 

[Charlie’s Frags]

So I have my 2 hydra 52 HD’s mounted 16” above my 50 gallon.

So I used your settings and adjusted them to 51 watts per fixture, 102 watts total

I then turned the whites up a little and measured these

 

[Tangina20]

I then turned the whites up a little and measured these

Wow thanks for doing that! How deep were you measuring??

 

[Charlie’s Frags]

Wow thanks for doing that! How deep were you measuring??

6-8 inches

 

[Charlie’s Frags]

That would be awesome! My 26 HD are 12” over my 18” deep tank here’s the settings!

I don’t know why I didn’t just put your settings in the first place. So here are your exact settings

The lower position is about 6-8” below the surface and the higher positions are about 2” below the surface.

 

[Tangina20]

I don’t know why I didn’t just put your settings in the first place. So here are your exact settings

The lower position is about 6-8” below the surface and the higher positions are about 2” below the surface.

Awesome thank you that was very helpful!

 

[Rolltidekraz]

Dave57
What schedule are you running your lights?

 

[Miguel Pxt]

It happened shortly after this thread was posted. Guess I started a new thread for the video and didn't post it in this one. Whoops.

Here you go.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/can-you-radion-ab-on-an-ai-hydra-askbrstv.464667/

Hi Randy
Greetings from the other side of the Atlantic...

Is it possible for you guys to test the new Hydra 32 and 64 ?
It would be interesting to see how much the spectrum and PAR values changed.
I moved over to Hydra 32 from Hydra26HD maintaining the same BRSTV AB+ schedule, and got some random SPS bleaching.

Thanks
Miguel Peixoto
Oporto - Portugal

 

[DSFa]

Hi BRS,

I'm just looking for some advice from the pros, I've got a Hydra 26 runnign the AB+ programe specified on this post but I would still like to view my corals for the last few hours of the day in blue lights with little / no cool whites.

How would one achieve this goal without negatively affecting the corals?

Thank you!

 

[Xclusive Reef]

Hi BRS,

I'm just looking for some advice from the pros, I've got a Hydra 26 runnign the AB+ programe specified on this post but I would still like to view my corals for the last few hours of the day in blue lights with little / no cool whites.

How would one achieve this goal without negatively affecting the corals?

Thank you!

you can do anything you like. I found that the default AB+ was too low for my liking so I have my whites at 70% for 5 hours. My schedule runs 3.5 hours ramp up just blues then 5 hours AB+ but 70% whites then last 4 hours of the day i use only blues and ramps down.

 

[randyBRS]

We're actually in the process of revisiting this light fixture with our updated testing approach! Which also means more improved spectrum ratio mix with three specific goals in mind: coral metabolic function, eye pleasing tank, coral/fish pop & coloration.

The updated BRS Recommended spectrum isn't far off from the one we posted in this thread, but it does put out a bit more ooomph and PAR which some reefers needed.

Watch for the Hydra26 testing video to come out this Friday!

 

[Xclusive Reef]

We're actually in the process of revisiting this light fixture with our updated testing approach! Which also means more improved spectrum ratio mix with three specific goals in mind: coral metabolic function, eye pleasing tank, coral/fish pop & coloration.

The updated BRS Recommended spectrum isn't far off from the one we posted in this thread, but it does put out a bit more ooomph and PAR which some reefers needed.

Watch for the Hydra26 testing video to come out this Friday!

As to why I use blues maxed out with 0 whites for 7 hours daily, 3.5 morning and 3.5 evening and use the 5 hours of blues and mostly white (70%) to for the coral growth.. Results below.

 

[Luckyduck]

Hey Dave would the 26HD settings work on the 16HD? I found BRS TVs video they made inspired by this post and it was nice to see them figure that out for us!

 

[dave57]

Hey Dave would the 26HD settings work on the 16HD? I found BRS TVs video they made inspired by this post and it was nice to see them figure that out for us!

I believe they’re very similar but not identical, the spectrum regardless will give you good color and growth, I would recommend utilizing a par meter to gauge and set the intensity for your specific coral species.