Any failures - Premium top of the line Red Sea tank series

[nickng]

Trying to find out if there have been any failures in terms of leaks, seams breaking apart in the top of the line RED SEA tanks.
Please only report failures for the tank models that comes only with the full aluminum stand.
Interested in failures for models

REEFER MAX S G2+ Supersized premium Plug & Play smart reef systems

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REEFER MAX S G2+ 550, 700, 850,1000​

and the older MAX S series

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MAX S-SERIES 400, 500, 650​

I don't think there have been any reported failures/issues with these tanks. I could be wrong though

 

[TX_REEF]

Regardless of the stand, it seems that the floating front panel is the common failure point. Recent G2 failure, which I previously thought did not have the same issues at G1: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/red-sea-reefer-350-g2-catastrophic-failure.1075814/

Makes me quite nervous having a 350 G2 in my living room...

 

[nickng]

Regardless of the stand, it seems that the floating front panel is the common failure point. Recent G2 failure, which I previously thought did not have the same issues at G1: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/red-sea-reefer-350-g2-catastrophic-failure.1075814/

Makes me quite nervous having a 350 G2 in my living room...

FYI, the top of the line series have the floating panels supported by an extended/extruded aluminum lip that AFAIK doesn't exist on the standard G2+ or standard MAX models

 

[TX_REEF]

FYI, the top of the line series have the floating panels supported by an extended/extruded aluminum lip that AFAIK doesn't exist on the standard G2+ or standard MAX models

that would certainly help things - it's a shame you have to pay for an upgrade that is seemingly necessary to integrity.

 

[MnFish1]

that would certainly help things - it's a shame you have to pay for an upgrade that is seemingly necessary to integrity.

Agree however the vast majority of g1 tanks had no problems. And full sympathies for those who did

 

[nickng]

ok so far there's one reported, but it looks like a manufacturing issue

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[VintageReefer]

Will add the S Series being discussed here seems to have a eurobrace and better stand

 

[Reeferbadness]

My G1 750 XXL failed (front seam) after 40 months (past regular warrantee ) and Red Sea replaced the tank and stand at no cost after lengthy paperwork/photo documentation. It sucked but they at least made me whole.

 

[nickng]

Will add the S Series being discussed here seems to have a eurobrace and better stand

Indeed. I'm tracking to see if there're any failures in the redsea tanks with eurobrace and full aluminum stand and NO floating glass panels. There's some discussion that part of the failure is because of the type of silicone glue used in the construction of redsea tanks

 

[Cranie]

My G1 750 XXL failed (front seam) after 40 months (past regular warrantee ) and Red Sea replaced the tank and stand at no cost after lengthy paperwork/photo documentation. It sucked but they at least made me whole.

They replaced my 425XL with minimal paperwork/photo exchange. Sent me the entire setup and stand at no cost.

 

[klc]

Hundreds and hundreds of failures and yet people are still buying Red Sea tanks. I just don't get it. Want a new tank? Anything but a Red Sea.

 

[Viking_Reefing]

Indeed. I'm tracking to see if there're any failures in the redsea tanks with eurobrace and full aluminum stand and NO floating glass panels. There's some discussion that part of the failure is because of the type of silicone glue used in the construction of redsea tanks

I think the silicone has something to do with it. I had a chat about the Red Sea failures with a custom tank builder and his view was that they used cheaper Chinese silicone on the tanks rather than the expensive high-quality German stuff.
That in combination with the overall design was what he was attributing most of the failures to.

 

[RedReefer]

Don’t buy Redsea too many other brands without a bad history.

 

[nickng]

I think the silicone has something to do with it. I had a chat about the Red Sea failures with a custom tank builder and his view was that they used cheaper Chinese silicone on the tanks rather than the expensive high-quality German stuff.
That in combination with the overall design was what he was attributing most of the failures to.

At this point, I wish Red Sea sells a discounted version of their premium line aquarium ie the ones with all aluminum stand eurobraced as SEPARATE PIECES of glass the the buyer puts together with their own silicone glue !!

 

[victoria casella]

Trying to find out if there have been any failures in terms of leaks, seams breaking apart in the top of the line RED SEA tanks.
Please only report failures for the tank models that comes only with the full aluminum stand.
Interested in failures for models

REEFER MAX S G2+ Supersized premium Plug & Play smart reef systems

The premium REEFER MAX S G2+ series combines the superior infrastructure of the REEFER-S G2+ systems with our smart lighting, filtration and circulation devices, so you can enjoy the full Red Sea ecosystem experience, operate every aspect via your ReefBeat App, and be at ease knowing that all...

g1.redseafish.com

REEFER MAX S G2+ 550, 700, 850,1000​

and the older MAX S series

Red Sea MAX S-Series - Fully featured REEF SPEC, reef aquariums

The MAX S-Series is Red Sea’s flagship reef system and features the very latest in reef-keeping technology. WiFi controlled Hydra HD LED lighting, REEF-SPEC filtration and circulation systems, customizable fascia and a one-plug control center allow you to focus on the beauty and diversity of...

g1.redseafish.com

MAX S-SERIES 400, 500, 650​

I don't think there have been any reported failures/issues with these tanks. I could be wrong though

New 750 g2+ failed in July 3 weeks in

 

[victoria casella]

My G1 750 XXL failed (front seam) after 40 months (past regular warrantee ) and Red Sea replaced the tank and stand at no cost after lengthy paperwork/photo documentation. It sucked but they at least made me whole.

My 750 xxl g2+ failed one month later… they replaced it, right away! I have to say really fast! but that doesn’t take into consideration what to do with the other 500 pound tank while you move the new 500 pound tank onto the stand and setting up again!…ugh

 

[nickng]

My 750 xxl g2+ failed one month later… they replaced it, right away! I have to say really fast! but that doesn’t take into consideration what to do with the other 500 pound tank while you move the new 500 pound tank onto the stand and setting up again!…ugh

Curious, does the tank come with a full metal-aluminum stand?

 

[asperkolls]

I have heard Many horror stories about red sea.would never get one. Replacing is not a problem. What to do with all that water!

 

[victoria casella]

Curious, does the tank come with a full metal-aluminum stand?

No this one has thicker glass but no aluminum stand. this one did not come apart at the bottom like the others this one is in the top front… this is just a seam fail… my 525 XL came apart on the bottom because of the stand twisting, but it lasted five years.

 

[lissailor]

Add me to the list of RS 350 failures. This is my first tank and has been setup for about 4yrs. It is possibly a G1 tank but was supplied with a replacement G2 stand. Came home from work to a recently sprung leak. Only an inch or two of water had drained out of the tank. It was leaking from the front pane. It got progressively worse and really started coming out much faster after pushing on it to slow the original leak. I can't express enough how disappointing this result was. I am a no-expense-spared new hobbyist (because I loved it) with 10's of thousands of dollars into the tank. The fact that this is even a possible result is insane to me. Red Sea has really done a disservice to the hobby by selling these tanks and souring people to the hobby. I am afraid to say this will likely be my first and last reef tank. I am unaware of any other hobby in this level of expense with such a high possibility of critical failure. Not withstanding the possible damage to our homes! I am just grateful that I happened to be walking into my home at the time I did. Otherwise I would probably be making a homeowners insurance claim this morning.

I will be listing the majority of the equipment that is salvageable here for sale as soon as I get the rest of this cleaned up today. So sad and maddening.