Aquaforest method and constant algae issues

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  1. RegalMark

    RegalMark Member

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    Hi I started all over after I had a fish wipe out last year and was using miracle mud then cemented rock caused a cycle then had 8 months of constant algae issues so then i just pulled it all out new rock new water.

    So now after a few months of using AF method I am still battling constant algae issues I am very close to just giving up now this is supposed to be fun.

    Any help?
     
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  2. wdavid

    wdavid Active Member R2R Supporter

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    Which additives are you using and what are your parameters?
     
  3. RegalMark

    RegalMark Member

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    Hi thanks for your message

    Aquaforest
    Probiotic salt
    Pro bio s
    Pro bio f
    -NP Pro
    Component 1+2+3+
    Vitality
    Energy
    Build
    Amino Acids
    Phosphate remover
    Carbon

    I've been doing some research and it appears I might be over dosing

    Will send parameters shortly
     
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    OLDREEFER44 Active Member R2R Supporter Partner Member 2019

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    Had the same issue when using AF system similar to what your doing. For whatever reason, switching to Red Sea Pro and associated additives cured my algae problem and has not been an issue since.
     
  5. wdavid

    wdavid Active Member R2R Supporter

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    What's your water volume and how much of ABEV and pro bio s/ polymer are you dosing?
     
  6. RegalMark

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    ABEV 2x drops per day
    -NP Pro 10ml per day
    Pro Bio f 2x scoops per day

    I have a sparse tank so far so thinking ive over dosed tank

    Was fine until I started doing 123+ dosing 50ml per day made a mistake cos that's for a full reef but I haven't so maybe over dosing supplements
     
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  7. wdavid

    wdavid Active Member R2R Supporter

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    I'm sure you already know but ABEV is supposed to be dosed every other day. And you can overdose this stuff so if you don't have much corals do 1/2 or 1/4 of the amount per water volume and maybe that will help your case.

    How long have you had algae issues for?

    If your nitrates and phosphates are high then I guess increasing your probiotic items will help along with some water changes but without knowing some more details it might be hard to figure out
     
  8. RegalMark

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    Ok yes sorry I dose ABEV every other day ive stopped dosing 123+ at the moment

    Temp. 25.2
    SG 1.025
    PH 8.2
    dKH 11 5
    Ca. 504
    Mg 1500
    N03. 1ppm max
    P04 0.08

    N02 & Nh3 0

    Thats why I stopped dosing 123+ cos it's so high
     
  9. wdavid

    wdavid Active Member R2R Supporter

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    Yeah I mean some water changes will fix that no problem, shouldn't have to worry too much.

    On the other hand your nitrate and phosphate aren't super high so maybe the higher iron and few other elements helped fuel growth?

    I'd say try removing as much as possible manually or with animals and see if your nitrates and phosphates rise as they die off. If they do then they were masking a nutrient issue and you need to figure out if you feed too much or have too many fish, etc. Or just dose more carbon

    I haven't personally had issues with AF products causing algae growth in the past nor when I'm restarting the tank with AF this time so that's the best I can do for you I think. Good luck.
     
  10. RegalMark

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    I appreciate your advice I will do large w/c tomorrow is 50% too much?
     
  11. wdavid

    wdavid Active Member R2R Supporter

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    Normally people recommend a series of smaller water changes so you don't startle anything. I either do 3 water changes of 30% over 3 days or 20% changes over 4 or 5 days if I think something has gone bad. Since you're bringing alk down from 11.5 to about 8 of the salt, I would do no more than 15 to 20% a day, don't wanna have a huge alk swing downward.

    Depends how fast you brought up the dkh but Idon't think the high alk will kill anything. You might stress things even more trying to fix it vs letting it down slowly. So take it slowly and don't panic.
     
  12. Anirban

    Anirban Valuable Member R2R Supporter Reef Squad R2R Excellence Award Partner Member 2019 Reef Tank 365 Build Thread Contributor

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    Hi, welcome to R2R and posting in the forum. What is the total water volume? Also, you are sure that you are dosing 10 ml NP Pro each day? If yes then is this the doser format NP Pro? what is the current number of of fishes and corals in the tank?
     
  13. RegalMark

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    Thanks everybody

    Tank is 250 not including displacement

    7x fish
    Inverts
    And approx 15 corals
     
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    No need to dose abve if you dont have any corals growing. I wouldn't use them until your tanks stable and corals are growing.
     
  15. RegalMark

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    Thanks guys done 75l water change in the last few days got 250l aquarium.
    And keep cleaning glass also ceased dosing 123+ and reduced ABEV so far still got diatoms but hopefully will go soon,it's really starting to ruin my hobby.
     
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    Great news algae all gone looks great now since I stopped dosing.
     
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  17. rob safron

    rob safron Active Member Partner Member 2019

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    Your nutrients were low because the algae was using them before you could measure. Stopped feeding the algae and it died. Go slow whenever you do start feeding again.
     
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