Armor of God Zoas wont open? Any suggestions?

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I have a frag of Armor of God zoanthids courtesy of Tomoko that have been open but not really thriving. I thought they were getting too much light or where getting blown by the powerheads. I also have a nice yellow/red zoa that was getting shadows from the surrounding mushrooms, neither were really growing. I moved the AOG's down and away from the powerheads, and the others up in the middle of some SPS frags. Now non of them will open up and they are looking bad. The green and peach zoas in the middle are thriving for some reason. Do I have a chemical battle going on that I don't see? Please don't ask what my parameters are, haven't checked yet this year. Monti's are growing, birds nest are taking off, SPS and other LPS are fully extended so I feel good about my water parameters, but expect my phosphates are high. Could they be getting to much light?

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Also if anyone wants some of these green zoas let me know I am about to bust up a rock full of them.
 

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hi can you get close up pics,nice tank btw
 

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watch that paly toxin!!!!
 

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Zoas generally love a lot of light IMHO. I've got high flow in my tank and my AOG does not seem to be bothered by it.

Mushrooms can irritate other corals. Just FYI, I could not figure out why my frogspawn were not happy for a long time. They used to thrive in my old 180. As soon as I gave away my large Kenya tree (like two weeks ago?), my frogspawn started extending their polyps! This could be a mere coincidence, but I tried everything that I can think of and nothing worked before I got rid of the softy. It seems that softies can put out powerful chemicals.
 
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I'm wondering why these peach zoa's I got from Wade Sims are growing out of control up a PVC pipe and the expensive ones I bought are dissolving away. I put the AoG's closer to my powerheads and put the red/yellows on a small rock. I did a light hydrogen dip and pulled off a bunch of Astrinas (those little star things). Also did a light iodine dip for good measure. Phosphate s are a little high Hanna checker is reading .12 and Alk is at about 10 dhK. Did a water change yesterday, so PH got up to 8.4 during the day. I expect it to level back off in a day or so.

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hopefully dips will do it
 
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Will Astrinas eat zoa's? Might be time to buy a harlequin shrimp. Got them as high flow/ light area as I can. Going to move them away from everything down on sand bed if I don't see improvement in next week.
 

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you know i have recently heard that in the last couple of weeks here,but have never seen it in 30yrs personally
 

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Ive had asterinas destroy most if my bam bam zoa
Iodine is a must in tank. You try slso peroxide dip and inspect for black bugs and nudibranchs
 
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Some asterina stars are bad. I understand there are quite a few varieties of them, though. They also eat pipe organ corals very fast. I hope you don't have a wrasse or dottyback if you are going to use Harlequin shrimp. My orchid dottyback ate the shrimp in no time flat.
 
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I have been reading up on Astrinas. General cocencus is if your zoa's are already sick and dying they will finish them off but probably won't bother healthy stuff. Not sure I buy it, but going to try a furan-2 dip regime since I already had the stuff from a failed QT attempt. So here goes.

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Any idea what this is? Fell off during dip. Don't know what it is so I killed it.
 
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Sorry scale is hard to tell in pictures but this thing is the size of a small tick. Kind looks like one. It is the only one I have seen. Very strange have it in a dish with Astrinas to see if it moves. Think it's dead.
 
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