ATI Essentials

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  1. Rakie

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    Here's what ATI says is in them -- I love the transparency.

    • ATI Essentials #1 - Carbonate Sources
      ATI Essentials # 1 is a dry powder that includes various carbonate sources. (Alkalinity)
    • ATI Essentials #2 - Calcium and Trace Elements
      ATI Essentials #2 is a liquid concentrate that contains calcium and other essential trace elements. These include mainly (among others): boron, bromine, cobalt, chromium, fluorine, iron, iodine, potassium, lithium, manganese, molybdenum, nickel, rubidium, sulphur, strontium, vanadium, and zinc.
    • ATI Essentials #3 - Magnesium and Trace Elements
      ATI Essentials #3 is a liquid concentrate that contains magnesium and other essential trace elements. These include mainly (among others): boron, bromine, cobalt, chromium, fluorine, iron, iodine, potassium, lithium, manganese, molybdenum, nickel, rubidium, sulphur, strontium, vanadium, and zinc.

    So it looks like Essentials #2 & #3 have the same trace elements (This is a copy/paste from Marine Depot). It says there are others as well, so it would be nice to know *exactly* whats in it, but it seems pretty transparent.
     

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    I have been looking into a more complete replacement rather than the home made Ca, alk, Mg replacement I have been using, as the recent ICP test I had done demonstrated low Iodine, potassium and strontium. However, my Iron and Zinc were high. Is there a way to implement this method without dosing a heavy metal component?
    Thumbs up for including a prepaid shipping label on your ICP test! I will have to give it a shot next time I run one.
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    All the elements your tank needs! There are over 25 elements included in the Essentials product line.
     
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    Is there a chance you could be specific, and list everything in the product? We would all appreciate that very much :)
     
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    My ATI Essentials driven, 18 months with no water changes and corals lovin it! P1270360.JPG P1280887.JPG
     
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    • ATI Essentials #1 - Carbonate Sources
      ATI Essentials # 1 is a dry powder that includes various carbonate sources. (Alkalinity)
    • ATI Essentials #2 Calcium #3 Magnesium and Trace Elements
      ATI Essentials #2 +#3 are a liquid concentrate that contain calcium, magnesium and other essential trace elements. These include mainly (among others): boron, bromine, cobalt, chromium, fluorine, iron, iodine, potassium, lithium, manganese, molybdenum, nickel, rubidium, sulphur, strontium, vanadium, and zinc etc
     
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    That is not everything in the product. ATI said there were other things in it which weren't on the label, which is why I asked.
     
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    They might be proprietary which is why they don't reveal them. Just a thought.
     
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    That's also what I was thinking. I figured it's either proprietary, or little things they may have thought were unnecessary to mention -- hoping for the later of course :)
     
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    Just ordered my first round of ati what is everyone using for mixing containers and storage containers
     
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    One recommendation is to use normal 5gal buckets. Home Depot has 7 liter paint buckets for like $4 that are graduated and works great for measuring all 9 Liters of RODI water needed for each bottle of ATI Essentials.
     
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    That's what I ended up using I have one question about starting dose. I used the 500ml bottles and it says that you can deluded them with 5 or 10 litre of water. I did the 5 litre mix is the starting dose of 25 ml per 100L for mixed reefs for the 5 litre mix or 10 litre mix. Haven't started dosing it yet waiting for dosing containers to come in the mail.
     
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    @Mrx7899 -- From what I understand, the 500ml size makes 5L, the 1000ml makes 10L, and you can't make the 500ml into 10L -- I could be wrong here -- But because this 2 part is very, very, very diluted (IMO) you should do the 5L anyways, so no worries there.

    Second -- Those doses are for the 5L mixture. In a thread of mine I'm asking how much people dose, and the amount some people use is outrageous. In a little 45g cube I'm using 70ml after some balancing, a friend of mine is use about 200ml, and I've had people in my thread say upwards of 800ml per day (not a typo).

    When I was using ME corals, I was enjoying the use of 25ml per day.

    I'm not saying ATI is bad, I actually like it quite a bit. But I will say it's very weak, so probably be prepared to raise it a little, and don't make it more diluted than it already is.

    As for mixing and storing -- I use 1 gallon jugs, and just mix up 3L at a time in each jug. I don't have a lot of room to store 2+g jugs of liquid, so 1g jugs has to do for me.
     
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    Ok thanks that's what I figured it was for the 5 litre mix but wasn't sure. I have a 50 gallon sps tank That I'm currently dosing 21mls of brs 2 part that keeps me in the mid 7s dkh so I guess I'll start around 50 mls and go up from there if you are dosing 70 mls in a 45 gallon.
     
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    @Mrx7899 -- Here is my most recent Full Tank Shot -- This tank has just turned a year old, and most of the corals in here are new frags. This should help give you an idea of how much I'm using for a smaller tank with mostly small frags

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    Thanks picture helps a lot. My tanks is similar to yours, I have mostly frags and a couple colonies and a 5 inch maxima clam. So probably end up dosing around what you are
     
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    Yep, start lower though. As I started EVERYTHING fluctuated a whole bunch, Alk, Cal, and Mag all individually went up and down. I'm not saying that's the norm, but man my whole tank freaked out at first for 3-4 days.
     
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    My 1350ltr tank uses 800ml a day but is packed with large SPS and a whole lot of frags, its still cost effective for me not doing water changes and not having to buy extra supplements for trace elements etc.

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    Great tank Brett!
     
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    WHAT is that top center sps colonie STUNNING!
     
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