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So have a brand new 100g waterbox with ‘dry live rock’ and sand going for about 4 days with bacterica added … see a lot of videos and suggestions around a 4 month cycle with no lights…..obv wouldn’t want to wait that long if I don’t have to - thoughts? I mean I’d love to add lights and cleanup crew for at least the first month if possible…

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Bottled bacteria these days is near instant cycle. What product are you using?

A tank will cycle with just an ammonia source and no supplemental bacteria in about 4 weeks.

It is wise to let your tank mature for several months before attempting coral. With no coral for those first handful of months, light isn't necessary and is sometimes avoided to minimize any nuisance algae associated with new, cycling tanks. This isn't really about cycling, it's about maturing/stabilizing over time.
 

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So have a brand new 100g waterbox with ‘dry live rock’ and sand going for about 4 days with bacterica added … see a lot of videos and suggestions around a 4 month cycle with no lights…..obv wouldn’t want to wait that long if I don’t have to - thoughts? I mean I’d love to add lights and cleanup crew for at least the first month if possible…

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1. Four months is very long, plenty of ways to make it faster, you are absolutely right.
2. Adding bacteria is indeed the way to make it faster, definitely should not take four weeks if you dose bacteria. Though recently some products are reported to not work very well compared to others. What brand did you use?
3. No lights is a myth. Lights won't really affect the cycle. May grow algae, but that's a different story entirely.
4. Your 'dry live rock' looks like 'Life Rock', an actual brand of rock from CaribSea. It is dry rock, but coated with microbes and painted purple, or something of the sorts. But yeah, treat it as dry rock, because as far as people could tell so far, it behaves like dry rock.
 
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1. Four months is very long, plenty of ways to make it faster, you are absolutely right.
2. Adding bacteria is indeed the way to make it faster, definitely should not take four weeks if you dose bacteria. Though recently some products are reported to not work very well compared to others. What brand did you use?
3. No lights is a myth. Lights won't really affect the cycle. May grow algae, but that's a different story entirely.
4. Your 'dry live rock' looks like 'Life Rock', an actual brand of rock from CaribSea. It is dry rock, but coated with microbes and painted purple, or something of the sorts. But yeah, treat it as dry rock, because as far as people could tell so far, it behaves like dry rock.
Thanks appreciate the input
 
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Bottled bacteria these days is near instant cycle. What product are you using?

A tank will cycle with just an ammonia source and no supplemental bacteria in about 4 weeks.

It is wise to let your tank mature for several months before attempting coral. With no coral for those first handful of months, light isn't necessary and is sometimes avoided to minimize any nuisance algae associated with new, cycling tanks. This isn't really about cycling, it's about maturing/stabilizing over time.
I have a local store near me that gave me “Seed” from aquavitro and then 2 days later I added bio spira from instant ocean

agreed - my plan is to introduce a clean up crew then a few fish over time - no corals for months

figure I’ll introduce some algae eating fish in a month
 

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I have a local store near me that gave me “Seed” from aquavitro and then 2 days later I added bio spira from instant ocean

agreed - my plan is to introduce a clean up crew then a few fish over time - no corals for months

figure I’ll introduce some algae eating fish in a month
Depending on the bacteria added you may be ready for fish right now. Dosing to 2ppm ammonia and testing 24 hours later is an easy way to be sure. Lights aren't needed at all until coral are added. Any would be for your own viewing pleasure. Yes this can promote algae growth. However algae and the ugly phase are unavoidable.
 

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I have a local store near me that gave me “Seed” from aquavitro and then 2 days later I added bio spira from instant ocean

agreed - my plan is to introduce a clean up crew then a few fish over time - no corals for months

figure I’ll introduce some algae eating fish in a month
Bio-Spira is one of the bottled bac products that works super fast. So yeah, I agree with @Jekyl, test your cycle and see where it is at. I also agree with Jekyl on everything else too.
 
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Depending on the bacteria added you may be ready for fish right now. Dosing to 2ppm ammonia and testing 24 hours later is an easy way to be sure. Lights aren't needed at all until coral are added. Any would be for your own viewing pleasure. Yes this can promote algae growth. However algae and the ugly phase are unavoidable.
That seems to be the opinion I’m finding out is sound - thanks
 

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Imo lights won't really hurt your cycle but it'll sure make your tank ugly before it's ready for a clean up crew/algae eating fish to keep things in check. No real benefits other than being able to look at your lit tank. Like others said, dose ammonia and bottled bacteria, grab a nitrate test kit, and once you're getting detectable levels you can probably start adding fish/easy corals.

Like others have said, your tank will be cycled earlier than 4 months but its definitely still maturing so test often and expect random bouts of nuisance algae/dinos/cyano as the microbiome composition stabilizes
 

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