BRS160 two year update: How Zeovit worked for us! | BRStv

[snappa1953]

For my system, the WCs give me the opportunity to get the mulm from the ZeoVit reactor out of the tank. While most of it is consumed by the tank inhabitants (Corals, anemones, detritivores, etc), there is some that doesnt make it out of the sump, some that settles in the corners of the tank, etc.

Also, the WCs take care of some of the trace elements in my tank. I dont use many of the KZ additives - in fact I only use the main 3 - ZeoStart, ZeoBak, and SpongePower. But, for me at least, the WC gets the unsightly mulm out of my system. Nutrient management (concerning NO₃ and PO₄) is different than maintaining Alkalinity and Calcium.

Interesting. You're dosing carbon, bacteria and filter feeder good it seems? Calcium etc being replaced by water changes?

 

[snappa1953]

Interesting. You're dosing carbon, bacteria and filter feeder good it seems? Calcium etc being replaced by water changes?

Filter feeder FOOD. Not "good"

 

[ksfulk]

Interesting. You're dosing carbon, bacteria and filter feeder good it seems? Calcium etc being replaced by water changes?

Alkalinity and Calcium are being replaced via ESV B-Ionic 2 part dosing.

 

[VP616]

To expand on "why" water changes with ZEOvit method, this was taken from their guidebook:

"To get a balanced addition of elements contained in the salt mixes, we recommend a weekly water change with the quantity depending on the amount of corals...The reason for this water change is not to export nutrients but to provide a balanced addition of elements necessary for the corals."

 

[Scott.h]

Does anyone know what trace element/s specifically would be within the zeospur bottle?

 

[Ryanbrs]

Does anyone know what trace element/s specifically would be within the zeospur bottle?

I don't know what is in it. Presumably, it is either something that kills a portion of the zooxanthellae or causes the coral to expel a portion. Certainly sounds scary but a lot of reefers do it and it does allow the fluorescent proteins to shine through.

 

[Scott.h]

I don't know what is in it. Presumably, it is either something that kills a portion of the zooxanthellae or causes the coral to expel a portion. Certainly sounds scary but a lot of reefers do it and it does allow the fluorescent proteins to shine through.

Yeah I was kinda wondering if it was zink that actually did it.

Not knowing what was I the bottles is what's always kept me scared from zeo

 

[randyBRS]

what are the blue bottles do you dose ? do you dose xtra and b balance ?

Those bottles on the dosing pumps are Amino Acid Concentrate LPS and ZEOStart-3

-Randy

 

[rc1626]

What did you keep the alk at on the BRS 160 while running Zeo?

 

[randyBRS]

What did you keep the alk at on the BRS 160 while running Zeo?

The Alk stayed pretty solid around the 8.5dKH mark the whole time!

-Randy

 

[rc1626]

The Alk stayed pretty solid around the 8.5dKH mark the whole time!

-Randy

That would typically seem high when doing any sort of carbon dosing correct? I've read the ideal Alk level would be between 7.0 to 8.0. I guess you guys had no problems. Interesting!

 

[miniChou]

Did you guys try using your ROX carbon instead of the recommended KZ carbon on the BRS 160 to see if there were any noteable differences?

 

[josh.j.avila]

Does anyone know what trace element/s specifically would be within the zeospur bottle?

The common belief in the Zeo community is copper. A couple people who I know who have overdosed copper got similar effects.

 

[randyBRS]

That would typically seem high when doing any sort of carbon dosing correct? I've read the ideal Alk level would be between 7.0 to 8.0. I guess you guys had no problems. Interesting!

Yep, no issues at all! I've heard the same and even for the Triton Method the recommendation is around 7.0dKH, however I think stability is the real key here. There's still a lot of analysis of calcification rates at various Alkalinity levels to be done. I hope someone in the hobby finds a way to test it !

Did you guys try using your ROX carbon instead of the recommended KZ carbon on the BRS 160 to see if there were any noteable differences?

Not during the life of Zeovit on the BRS160. We followed the system as a whole and opted not to use our carbon.

-Randy

 

[Weaselander]

Any thoughts on running without a skimmer on a system with a smaller bio/feeding load? Thinking about setting up a 75 gallon with just a large refugium and H380. Probably more of an Softie/LPS tank with just a couple of fish.

 

[Brian W]

Would love to try the zeovit method

 

[Annahra]

Any thoughts on running without a skimmer on a system with a smaller bio/feeding load? Thinking about setting up a 75 gallon with just a large refugium and H380. Probably more of an Softie/LPS tank with just a couple of fish.

I did a ton of research on this personally and the general consensus is that dosing a carbon source as you do with Zeovit without a method to export the resulting bacteria is a bad idea. I added a skimmer to my nano specifically so I could start dosing. The skimmer also helps replenish the oxygen that the bacteria feed on.

 

[rc1626]

Yep, no issues at all! I've heard the same and even for the Triton Method the recommendation is around 7.0dKH, however I think stability is the real key here. There's still a lot of analysis of calcification rates at various Alkalinity levels to be done. I hope someone in the hobby finds a way to test it !



Not during the life of Zeovit on the BRS160. We followed the system as a whole and opted not to use our carbon.

-Randy

Thanks for the replies. Probably going to give it a go. Hope I can achieve some success.

 

[Morteza]

Triton method it is good

 

[Morteza]

Keep in mind I am addicted to these little blue bottles and once we get off them I am probably going to have to go to meetings to stay off them .... I just find the process of reading, selecting, dosing and watching to be enjoyable.

We use the following. To the best of my memory from home.

• The big four
• LPS aminos on a dosing pump.
• coral vitalizer
• Phol's Xtra
  
• Potassium iodide fluoride
• B- Balence
• Amino Acid Concentrate
• Coral Booster
• Flatworm stop - Dosed after we got the monti eating nudis in hopes it would make the tissue less appealing. Nudis are not an issue any longer but we never stopped.

There have been some questions about cost. I haven't tracked that, partially because I don't want to know... I would say there is no world where zeovit is the lowest cost method of achieving results and that's pretty much end of story there. I think the best analogy I can think of is most of us own a car to get to work and back. However, some people own a car so after work they can spend time tricking it out so they can get to work faster tomorrow : )

Hi Rayan

Why you changed Zeovit method to other method ?

Do you have problems in 160 BRS with Zeovit method ?

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