Can ICH Travel On Coral ?

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  1. vincentthai.vo

    vincentthai.vo Active Member

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    Can ich travel on coral ? If so can we dip the coral in like revive to kill it ? I need to know asap please
     
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    It can in the corals water
     
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    I think if you dip it will kill the ich
     
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    Ich, like all external parasites, has a tomont stage (think of it like parasite eggs) which can encyst upon "glass, plastic, gravel, metal, wood, and 'shell materials' including staghorn corals." - Peter Burgess 1992 study

    So it's logical to conclude tomonts can stick to any hard surface. Think snail/hermit shells, SPS/LPS "stony corals", even soft corals have calcium needles in their tissue.

    IMO; It's unlikely any coral dip eradicates tomonts since not even copper can do that due to the hard cyst. The only thing you can do is place all corals/inverts in a fishless frag tank for 76 days to wait the tomonts out. Once theronts are released from the tomonts and they fail to find a fish host to feed upon within 48 hrs, ich's life cycle ends.
     
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    I was pretty sure this was the case! I just couldn't explain it as well!!!
     
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    not to derail the thread but would that ably to velvet and brooklynela?
     
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    Yes; ich, velvet, brook & uronema all have a tomont stage. You can also bring in flukes/worms on a coral, as those lay eggs which invariably fall out of a fish and settle elsewhere. Coral dips DO NOT eradicate eggs of Red Planaria flatworms (for example) so I doubt it would kill flukes eggs either. :eek:
     
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    1. yes 2. no

    Yes but not that way exclusively
    nope
    Good Idea! Post number 5 for the answer, just figured I'd quote to pull these guys back in...
     
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    Ok its clear that ich could be on a plug or rock or any other “material”

    Could ich tomont travel on sps tissue?

    Asking because got a few frags and i dont trust my *** tank for 72days.

    Plan was to break frags of sps and glue them to new plugs so that way only sps travels to dt?
     
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    Yes; in fact, Acropora was directly tested during Peter Burgess 1992 study. Tomonts attached and encysted.
     
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    quick r/o freshwater dip for corals can help
     
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    That would do nothing for ich tomont.
     
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    Apart from QT in a fallow tank for the 6-8 week life cycle nothing will get rid of it with 100% certainty. Most systems are running with ich in the tank, but as long as nothing is stressing your fish (bad water quality) and they are well fed/have a healthy slime coat they should be fine. I have a hippo tang that has the occasional bout of ich and nothing else in the tank has ever gotten it.
     
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