Copperband butterfly wiping out pods ?

[areefer01]

I was going to do Qt tank transfer method ? And I wouldn’t be tricking mandarin if I got biota raised ones that eat frozen ? I just don’t want any chance of parasites or ich in my tank so I’m qting everything.

If you buy direct from Biota you do not need to do any of that. I'm partial to isolation when ordering captive bred or raised due to the size. However with Biota and buying direct (key - no middle holding system life online retail or lfs) you remove all that. Plus it is already eating prepared foods so will eat that plus natural.

 

[areefer01]

They are both good. Similar ingredients

There is also LRS Nano...

 

[Bucs20fan]

Copperbands are they hungriest fish ive ever seen. Mine ate the few aiptasia I had in a day, then at hundreds of upside down jellyfish polyps in a week. I had dinos and dosed silicates and it ate all the pineapple sponges as well, hundreds of them. All the while eating like a pig every time I fed. I put nothing past them, they are eating machines.

 

[Jekyl]

I was going to do Qt tank transfer method ? And I wouldn’t be tricking mandarin if I got biota raised ones that eat frozen ? I just don’t want any chance of parasites or ich in my tank so I’m qting everything.

Problem I see with that is the dietary needs. My mandarin does nothing but hunt and sleep. Their digestion is like a seahorse where they need to eat constantly. As far as the QT methods @Jay Hemdal have any advice?

 

[LeftyReefer]

Start an outdoor (or indoor for that matter) pod breeding station. Mine are out back behind my barn.
There are lots of threads here on R2R on how to do it. it's super easy. Takes zero effort after its setup.
Worked so well I added a second one. Now I'm getting more pods than I know what to do with.

Pod Breeding Station Thread

 

[christwendt]

Start an outdoor (or indoor for that matter) pod breeding station. Mine are out back behind my barn.
There are lots of threads here on R2R on how to do it. it's super easy. Takes zero effort after its setup.
Worked so well I added a second one. Now I'm getting more pods than I know what to do with.

Pod Breeding Station Thread

I shouldn’t need to do that if I have 125 gallons and wait a year and buy biota raised ? I have 110 lbs of rock in it. And will be having a fuge. It’s a neat idea but I’m managing 2 tanks, phyto , live worm culture. A pod culture is another thing. I should have enough rock for one mandarin ?

 

[christwendt]

Problem I see with that is the dietary needs. My mandarin does nothing but hunt and sleep. Their digestion is like a seahorse where they need to eat constantly. As far as the QT methods @Jay Hemdal have any advice?

Should I be concerned for pods if I have 110 lbs of rock and a fuge ? The mandarin will be the only one hunting the pods.

 

[christwendt]

If you buy direct from Biota you do not need to do any of that. I'm partial to isolation when ordering captive bred or raised due to the size. However with Biota and buying direct (key - no middle holding system life online retail or lfs) you remove all that. Plus it is already eating prepared foods so will eat that plus natural.

You don’t think there’s any risk of disease even if it’s from biota ?

 

[Bucs20fan]

Best course of action is do your best to get the mandarin to eat prepare foods. In 125 a healthy mandarin can do alot of damage, and you want some of the benefits of the pods for your tank, not just the mandarin.

Bite the bullet and buy it directly from biota website.

 

[christwendt]

Best course of action is do your best to get the mandarin to eat prepare foods. In 125 a healthy mandarin can do alot of damage, and you want some of the benefits of the pods for your tank, not just the mandarin.

Bite the bullet and buy it directly from biota website.

Good to know. Thank you. I may look in culturing pods if it isn’t too hard. I will be culturing phyto.

 

[areefer01]

I shouldn’t need to do that if I have 125 gallons and wait a year and buy biota raised ? I have 110 lbs of rock in it. And will be having a fuge. It’s a neat idea but I’m managing 2 tanks, phyto , live worm culture. A pod culture is another thing. I should have enough rock for one mandarin ?

Biota's are eating prepared food - and a pretty large variety. You should be fine. I would suggest that you visit their portal a few weeks before and order some of the food they use to you have 'known' food on hand. I'm not sure who here as ordered from Biota but here is my experience:

Golden lined rabbit
Links goby
Starry goby
Fork tail blenny
Pink Square Anthias x 4 (most recent purchase and eating everything prepared)
Matted filefish (aptasia eating machine)
Radial filefish

I will say 100% if you buy direct and know they come in on the smaller side and are prepared for that you will have success.

 

[Jekyl]

Best course of action is do your best to get the mandarin to eat prepare foods. In 125 a healthy mandarin can do alot of damage, and you want some of the benefits of the pods for your tank, not just the mandarin.

Bite the bullet and buy it directly from biota website.

I have my mandarin in a 90g. No fuge, never add pods. She's about 4 years old now.

 

[christwendt]

Biota's are eating prepared food - and a pretty large variety. You should be fine. I would suggest that you visit their portal a few weeks before and order some of the food they use to you have 'known' food on hand. I'm not sure who here as ordered from Biota but here is my experience:

Golden lined rabbit
Links goby
Starry goby
Fork tail blenny
Pink Square Anthias x 4 (most recent purchase and eating everything prepared)
Matted filefish (aptasia eating machine)
Radial filefish

I will say 100% if you buy direct and know they come in on the smaller side and are prepared for that you will have success.

Yes I read about what they eat and going to order the stuff.

Biota's are eating prepared food - and a pretty large variety. You should be fine. I would suggest that you visit their portal a few weeks before and order some of the food they use to you have 'known' food on hand. I'm not sure who here as ordered from Biota but here is my experience:

Golden lined rabbit
Links goby
Starry goby
Fork tail blenny
Pink Square Anthias x 4 (most recent purchase and eating everything prepared)
Matted filefish (aptasia eating machine)
Radial filefish

I will say 100% if you buy direct and know they come in on the smaller side and are prepared for that you will have success.

yes I read what they eat from biota and going to have a few options on hand. I still wonder about the QT of a mandarin even coming from biota. You didn’t have any issues with disease ? Usually mandarin are resistant but they could still hold ich which I don’t want in my display.

 

[christwendt]

I have my mandarin in a 90g. No fuge, never add pods. She's about 4 years old now.

Is she fat tho lol

 

[Jekyl]

Is she fat tho lol

Fattest fish in the tank tbh.

 

[sixty_reefer]

Some tanks can’t have copepod, mines keep being eaten by Protozoa.

 

[LeftyReefer]

Should I be concerned for pods if I have 110 lbs of rock and a fuge ? The mandarin will be the only one hunting the pods.

What about the copperband? Didn't you start this thread by stating the copperband has already wiped out most of your pods?

Just about every fish in my tank, other than tangs, eat pods. My anthias love pods, my royal gramma loves pods, wrasses love pods, even my damsels eat pods. OK, maybe not my clowns either, but all my other small fish seem to eat pods.

I've dosed pods to my tank a lot before I started culturing them.... never was able to maintain high enough numbers without adding them. culturing them is free and super simple.

 

[Paul B]

I never understood why people buy pods. I never bought one and I have a breeding pair of mandarins, breeding pair of ruby red dragonettes and a breeding pair of blue stripe pipefish. Those fish live in my tank for many years and I never run out of pods.

I am not sure why that is but I am glad I don't have to spend money and time on them when they multiply so fast.
I think many tanks are just to clean. But I am guessing.

 

[Tamberav]

I had 6 dragonnets in a 29g/20? Hex with 20g fuge. I moved and took the tank down but my oldest mandarin was 5 years with me at the time. I did not buy pods other than when I set the tank up.

I have seen starving mandarins in 100g. Tank was too clean guess.

The pods will breed based on the amount of food available.

In my case, my tank was a macro algae dominated tank and I fed the pods in the tank pellets. Was very easy to keep the fish fat. They eventually starting eating frozen and pellets too.

You can see Paul’s tank isn’t sterile. I see some algae, no biggy. The pods probably enjoy it.

 

[areefer01]

I never understood why people buy pods. I never bought one and I have a breeding pair of mandarins, breeding pair of ruby red dragonettes and a breeding pair of blue stripe pipefish. Those fish live in my tank for many years and I never run out of pods.

I am not sure why that is but I am glad I don't have to spend money and time on them when they multiply so fast.
I think many tanks are just to clean. But I am guessing.

I don't think you are guessing but you are assuming.