Coral Beauty Angelfish swollen lips

[Siberian]

Sorry for the mistakes, if there are any. I don't speak English.
Coral Beauty angel fish and other fish were bought on the 20th in the online store.
Two liretail anthias arrived already sick. During quarantine, liretail anthias, green chromis and brown tang fell ill and died. Liretail anthias and green chromis had an infection Uronema marinum. From the first day I added metronidazole, then replaced it with hydroxychloroquine.
The Coral Beauty angel, the six-spotted goby and two green chromis are alive. The water is tested for ammonia every day.
Yesterday I noticed that the Coral Beauty angelfish had a slightly swollen lip. The next day, the lips were very swollen. The fish became inactive. I gave him brine shrimps, he sluggishly pecked two brine shrimps and that's it.

 

[Siberian]

Kanamycin is not for sale here. Ciprofloxacin, erythromycin, nitrofurazone, metronidazole, hydroxychloroquine, sulfamethoxazole are available.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Kanamycin is not for sale here. Ciprofloxacin, erythromycin, nitrofurazone, metronidazole, hydroxychloroquine, sulfamethoxazole are available.

Sulfa would be closest but tri-sulfa, or acrriflavine will be your best bets as this looks bacterial. How are you acclimating these fish and for how long?
How long has this tank been running ?

 

[threebuoys]

Agree this appears to be a bacterial infection. Erythromycin or
nitrofurazone would be additional choices depending on which of the meds you can get most quickly

 

[Siberian]

I have acriflavin in its pure form.
The fish arrived panting, in dirty water. I quickly checked the temperature and transferred the fish to a quarantine aquarium.
I have two aquariums used for quarantine. I keep it in one aquarium for three days, then I transfer it to another aquarium. There is no cycle, so I check the water for ammonia every day.

 

[Siberian]

Agree this appears to be a bacterial infection. Erythromycin or
nitrofurazone would be additional choices depending on which of the meds you can get most quickly

I have all the aforementioned medications

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Kanamycin is not for sale here. Ciprofloxacin, erythromycin, nitrofurazone, metronidazole, hydroxychloroquine, sulfamethoxazole are available.

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

Ciprofloxacin can be dosed at 10 mg/l. It should be dosed daily, but a 50% water change is required before each dose. I would treat for 3 to 5 days.

Jay

 

[Siberian]

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

Ciprofloxacin can be dosed at 10 mg/l. It should be dosed daily, but a 50% water change is required before each dose. I would treat for 3 to 5 days.

Jay

In fact, this morning, when I saw the swollen lips of the fish, I dosed ciprofloxacin in the quarantine aquarium at a dose of 10 mg/l. I will continue the treatment.

Thanks to everyone!

 

[Siberian]

Good afternoon!
Unfortunately, he's not getting better. Apathetic, floats at the top of the tank. Breathing fast. Spits out food. The lip is still very swollen, there is a white mass inside the mouth and something is moving there.
He hates being photographed.

 

[Tonycass12]

Good afternoon!
Unfortunately, he's not getting better. Apathetic, floats at the top of the tank. Breathing fast. Spits out food. The lip is still very swollen, there is a white mass inside the mouth and something is moving there.
He hates being photographed.

White mass in the mouth thats moving. You may have one of the parasitic isopods? Sorry if im not getting that completly right. They live inside the fishes mouth, you need to get a closer look at this and see if its possible to extract it if thats the case.

Cymothoa exigua - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Good afternoon!
Unfortunately, he's not getting better. Apathetic, floats at the top of the tank. Breathing fast. Spits out food. The lip is still very swollen, there is a white mass inside the mouth and something is moving there.
He hates being photographed.

Does the movement of the mass related to the breathing of the fish? It might be some tissue moving in the water currents. I don't know of any parasite that would live in a fish's mouth that actively moves (the isopods noted above hang tight and don't move about).

In these photos, you can see that the upper jaw seems to be avulsed, protruding outward. I still think this all originated from some injury and then it got infected (catching these in a net frequently causes that).

Jay

 

[OrionN]

I have caught a black drum, while fishing, that has isopod parasites (a pair male and female) in his mouth and throat before. The fish is emaciated wild fish. I imagine that the parasites ate the fish tongue and attached itself to this area. Sitting there bleed the fish to death and breed the whole time. Basically, it just use the black drum as raw material to pump out fertilized eggs.
To me, the jaw does not seem to be infected, normally an infected area will have a cotton like, fuzzy appearance which is not the same with this angel. It looks like your fish tried to eat an isopod and the isopod is turning the table on him. If this is the case, you will need to sedate the fish and remove the isopod, or kill the isopod some how with out remove it. They attach pretty tight, ripping it out may cause damage to the fish.
If this is my fish, i would confirm that this is a parasite. I would sedate the fish and poke and kill the parasite and then let the fish handle it once the parasite is killed.
Make sure you actually kill the parasite, may be two of them. These parasite often infected in pairs so they can just reproduce in situ.

Interesting article. This was what I found in the black drum that I caught. In the picture, you can see the isopod PAIR in the fish mouth.
Fish isopod parasite

 

[Siberian]

These are not isopods. Something like cotton. Moves during the movement and breathing of the fish itself. Blisters appeared on his upper lip. Today I fed the fish for the second time, but she ignored the food.
I took a picture of him with great difficulty, when the camera approaches, he leaves the place.

 

[OrionN]

The last set of pictures are more c/w infection. I agree that he needs antibiotic, and hope that he got the reserve to live through the infection until the infection is control enough for him to regain his appetite.

 

[Siberian]

I also hope that he survives the infection safely. I continue to treat the fish with antibiotics.

 

[Siberian]

Good afternoon!
There are small improvements. The lip is not as swollen as before. The fish became more active. Maybe she ate today. I fed the fish with brine shrimp, quickly went into another room and spied how the fish was pecking at the brine shrimp. When I returned, I noticed that the number of brine shrimp had decreased.

 

[Siberian]

The lip of the Coral Beauty angelfish has shrunk significantly, but today it swims vertically in a corner, breathing rapidly and actively waving its fins. Yesterday the fish did not eat anything, today they did not feed.

 

[Siberian]

 

[Siberian]

I think he has gill flukes. Can 10 mg/l praziquantel be dosed into a quarantine aquarium?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I think he has gill flukes. Can 10 mg/l praziquantel be dosed into a quarantine aquarium?

Darn - I was hoping that fish was out of the woods.

Prazi should be dose lower than that. 2.2 mg/l is the standard dose, but I've gone as high as 4. 10 mg/l should be limited to using as a one or two hour dip.

Jay