Coral & Fish Shortages? What should we try to stock up on?

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As coral & fish collection starts to be banned throughout the world... what coral and fish will we start to see shortages of? Any hot coral/fish you are seeing prices rise on locally? Anything we should try to grab now before things start to become hard to acquire? I would love to hear your thoughts.
 

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I think 'hoarding' living creatures is problematic at best LOL. The hobby is mostly sustainable where corals are concerned, even other inverts in degrees. Fish are more problematic, though even there captive raised/bred programs offer expanding inventories. I'm mostly in favor of (hopefully sensible) collection bans or limits. What worries me more is if wild collecting bans are extended to prohibiting the trade of even aquacultured or hobby-traded animals. That would be a big problem for our hobby.
 

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I think 'hoarding' living creatures is problematic at best LOL. The hobby is mostly sustainable where corals are concerned, even other inverts in degrees. Fish are more problematic, though even there captive raised/bred programs offer expanding inventories. I'm mostly in favor of (hopefully sensible) collection bans or limits. What worries me more is if wild collecting bans are extended to prohibiting the trade of even aquacultured or hobby-traded animals. That would be a big problem for our hobby.
I agree with you 8,000,000% The industry’s problem is we’re dealing with countries that don’t understand sustainability for the most part. People from Indonesia, Philippines, Vanuatu, PNG, etc. Plus, government officials & wildlife officials need their money. They don’t know or really care about sustainability until their paychecks get smaller, sad.
 

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I think 'hoarding' living creatures is problematic at best LOL. The hobby is mostly sustainable where corals are concerned, even other inverts in degrees. Fish are more problematic, though even there captive raised/bred programs offer expanding inventories. I'm mostly in favor of (hopefully sensible) collection bans or limits. What worries me more is if wild collecting bans are extended to prohibiting the trade of even aquacultured or hobby-traded animals. That would be a big problem for our hobby.

Prohibiting trade (aquaculture) is a magnificent and insidious way to *guarantee* the pilfering of specimens illegally from the wild. Just ask the rangers that work the African national preserves.
 
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With regards to coral this hobby is self sustaining. We probably throw more coral away every year by trimmings alone. However, we are at a crossroads today with various chop shops re-branding corals and reselling at ridiculous prices. Nothing wrong with that per say but it probably won't help the hobbyists if the laws are written vaguely such that it hints to, and enforces, hobby level transactions.

With fish - again it is somewhat self sustaining but with a lot of restrictions on what we can readily farm. So as hobbyist our selections will be drastically reduced and prices will increase one or two orders of magnitude if not more.
 
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I think 'hoarding' living creatures is problematic at best LOL. The hobby is mostly sustainable where corals are concerned, even other inverts in degrees. Fish are more problematic, though even there captive raised/bred programs offer expanding inventories. I'm mostly in favor of (hopefully sensible) collection bans or limits. What worries me more is if wild collecting bans are extended to prohibiting the trade of even aquacultured or hobby-traded animals. That would be a big problem for our hobby.
Not really looking to "Hoard" anything. More so I'm looking for advice on what coral/fish i should be looking at now before they become hard to acquire. I hope that makes sense.
 

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Absolutely makes sense. Now fly to Vegas today and put money down on the 2021 Super Bowl winner. You can take all you know, have heard and think might happen and your odds of being right are probably within the same range. ;)
 

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Nice clams seem hard to get now compared to years ago. Even though more being farmed now, its seems a shortage may last awhile?
 

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rare euphyllia is fetching a hefty price these days & seems to always sell. was a lot less even a year ago. i've been collecting some :)
 

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Prohibiting trade (aquaculture) is a magnificent and insidious way to *guarantee* the pilfering of specimens illegally from the wild. Just ask the rangers that work the African national preserves.

As opposed to collecting/hunting something to wild extinction LOL.
 

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Not really looking to "Hoard" anything. More so I'm looking for advice on what coral/fish i should be looking at now before they become hard to acquire. I hope that makes sense.

Haha, yes, understood. My point, poorly made perhaps, was that animals have a limited life so stocking up hardly assures you’ll always have one. I’d not bother with corals as I expect there will always be availability even if prices are somewhat absurd. Most fish will be available for a while, though perhaps more limited from places like Hawaii.
 
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Thanks for the kind responses all. I guess I wont worry too much about sky rocketing coral prices and just enjoy my ride! :) Cheers!
 

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Hoarding?? Lol better get a massive swimming pool tank built otherwise you are not hoarding anything.
 

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