Designing the Perfect Small AIO. Post your feature request, or wish list & let's build it!

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Probably needed to be an inch smaller on the back side for those 10" cubes. The 12" is right at that limit for size on the back being to much I think.

Still very nice quality tanks. I'm sure they will hook you both up with the correct size!
That was why I suggested making the sump 1/2" smaller--before I realized it was just plain the wrong tank. I had an idea for a small setup that I was going to use the 12x12 for but when I got this tank it kind of went out the window. I even measured the tank. You would think I would have said something like "wait a minute" but nope just assumed I remembered the dimensions incorrectly...
 

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That was why I suggested making the sump 1/2" smaller--before I realized it was just plain the wrong tank. I had an idea for a small setup that I was going to use the 12x12 for but when I got this tank it kind of went out the window. I even measured the tank. You would think I would have said something like "wait a minute" but nope just assumed I remembered the dimensions incorrectly...

If it makes you feel any better I lost mine.. it has been commandeered. So much for my planned rock flower and sexy shrimp tank...
 

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Me either. I figured I would just rig something to hold one of the floss cups designed to fit the Waterbox AIOs. I have one from Kraken Reef in my Waterbox that I can use as a template for the opening anyway.
If you want a custom bracket for the floss cup 3d printed contact Eric at eelrivercoral.com. He’s done custom work for me that turned out great. It’s affordable and he’s easy to work with, he likes doing these type of projects.
 

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Received my tank this morning. It's a cool little tank, but could use some tweaks. The overall finish is a bit rougher than expected. Bubbles in the AIO insert seam, rough cut on the top edge of insert, small scratch on the front panel interior.

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I also agree that a slightly larger display and smaller aio chambers would a bit more balanced, but the large chambers do have benefits too.
 

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Received my tank this morning. It's a cool little tank, but could use some tweaks. The overall finish is a bit rougher than expected. Bubbles in the AIO insert seam, rough cut on the top edge of insert, small scratch on the front panel interior.

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I also agree that a slightly larger display and smaller aio chambers would a bit more balanced, but the large chambers do have benefits too.

Just to make sure, you did see the note from @Tenecor Aquariums above about those internal seams? It's just aesthetics. Thankfully on the back of the tank! It sounds like they had some ideas and plans to address that in future builds.
 

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Yes, I saw. Not worried about leakage as it's the AIO chamber wall anyway. But...aesthetics do matter. It can be overlooked on a heavily discounted tank, but if I were paying full price, I'd expect clean cuts at a minimum.
 

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Yes, I saw. Not worried about leakage as it's the AIO chamber wall anyway. But...aesthetics do matter. It can be overlooked on a heavily discounted tank, but if I were paying full price, I'd expect clean cuts at a minimum.
I do agree the top of the AIO divider should be polished like the top of the tank. I actually plan to vinyl-wrap the AIO section of mine overlapping the display sides about 1/8" like some of the other AIO mfgs do so the side aesthetics don't matter as much to me.
 
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I do agree the top of the AIO divider should be polished like the top of the tank. I actually plan to vinyl-wrap the AIO section of mine overlapping the display sides about 1/8" like some of the other AIO mfgs do so the side aesthetics don't matter as much to me.
This is unacceptable. It should not have shipped like this. I will be looking into this further.
 
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Received my tank this morning. It's a cool little tank, but could use some tweaks. The overall finish is a bit rougher than expected. Bubbles in the AIO insert seam, rough cut on the top edge of insert, small scratch on the front panel interior.

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20220326_084737.jpg

I also agree that a slightly larger display and smaller aio chambers would a bit more balanced, but the large chambers do have benefits too.
This tank is now the "old lousy" replaced by the "new and improved". You will note the display area is now a full 10x10 plus the sump for a finished dimension of 10x14x10. In minute I will post a sketch of a proposed second generation sump. Please let me know your thoughts. The sketch won't be as good as the one from @TheWB though.
 
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good thoughts, I think small nanos are nearly always over-engineered in the back.

make a tank with a filter sock drain, leave the rest open enough to accommodate a small skimmer and return pump/heater and leave it at that. IME a desktop nano doesn't need 3 chambers, just 2.

design a desktop to work with popular nano skimmers like a Tunze 9001 and you're gonna make people happy
Is this close to what you had in mind? Dimensions TBD. What I see is three AIO versions: 1) Three chamber wet/wet 2) Single chamber wet/wet (shown below) and 3) two chamber full wet/dry. All three versions will be available as drop in kits for common glass tanks and as pre-built nanos. Thoughts?

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Is this close to what you had in mind? Dimensions TBD. What I see is three AIO versions: 1) Three chamber wet/wet 2) Single chamber wet/wet (shown below) and 3) two chamber full wet/dry. All three versions will be available as drop in kits for common glass tanks and as pre-built nanos. Thoughts?

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yeah I like that design. and id just ensure that enough depth is there to mount a popular skimmer (based on the intended size) like a 9001, 9004, etc.
 

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Is this close to what you had in mind? Dimensions TBD. What I see is three AIO versions: 1) Three chamber wet/wet 2) Single chamber wet/wet (shown below) and 3) two chamber full wet/dry. All three versions will be available as drop in kits for common glass tanks and as pre-built nanos. Thoughts?

FILTER SOCK AIO.jpg

You even threw in the sock holder!
 

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Another design we build mostly in very large 350+ gallon peninsula tanks is what we call a "stacked" wet/dry. inlet slots, to open cell sponge which sits on a trickle plate under which sits bio media. Finally at the bottom is a bulkhead to the external sump. In smaller peninsulas, the bulkhead is replaced with a return pump like in the image below. This was another design option we considered for these small tanks. If you haven't seen the entire family, check it out. Quite a few options now. >>>> https://tenecoraquariums.com/collections/miniquarium. Our next project is the frag tank lineup. We did not realize there was such a demand for small tanks. Our main work is the big stuff 350+ and sometimes we lose sight of the smaller aquariums. We also introduced a line of jellyfish tanks with similar filtration.


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I'm a little late to the game, but do you sell this overflow separately? I've got a WB 16g that is just the empty tank and I was thinking a corner or center overflow, just simple one chamber would beat a HOB filter.
 

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I'm going to renege on not cluttering this thread. I don't want to start a build thread yet since I still need to talk to Tenecor about it but I wanted to share what the 4.0 v1 looks like running. Only tap water but I have a sponge in chamber 1 with space above for some filter floss sheet, nothing in chamber 2, and a 50 watt Aqua-El heater and Sicce Micra pump in chamber 3. The flow is just about right for this tank (the 4 gal) and it is probably fine for the 7 gallon.

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As you can see the sump is quite generous. I'd probably swap the heater for my Finnex HMS-50 so that it would fit in the center chamber.
 
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I'm a little late to the game, but do you sell this overflow separately? I've got a WB 16g that is just the empty tank and I was thinking a corner or center overflow, just simple one chamber would beat a HOB filter.
Please contact our Client Care team at [email protected]. Please explain to them what you need and they will take care of you. FYI, they do not answer emails on weekends or holidays. Take care.
 
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I'm going to renege on not cluttering this thread. I don't want to start a build thread yet since I still need to talk to Tenecor about it but I wanted to share what the 4.0 v1 looks like running. Only tap water but I have a sponge in chamber 1 with space above for some filter floss sheet, nothing in chamber 2, and a 50 watt Aqua-El heater and Sicce Micra pump in chamber 3. The flow is just about right for this tank (the 4 gal) and it is probably fine for the 7 gallon.

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As you can see the sump is quite generous. I'd probably swap the heater for my Finnex HMS-50 so that it would fit in the center chamber.
Looks like you are getting good flow through the sump baffles. Should be quiet as a mouse too.
 

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I'm going to renege on not cluttering this thread. I don't want to start a build thread yet since I still need to talk to Tenecor about it but I wanted to share what the 4.0 v1 looks like running. Only tap water but I have a sponge in chamber 1 with space above for some filter floss sheet, nothing in chamber 2, and a 50 watt Aqua-El heater and Sicce Micra pump in chamber 3. The flow is just about right for this tank (the 4 gal) and it is probably fine for the 7 gallon.

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As you can see the sump is quite generous. I'd probably swap the heater for my Finnex HMS-50 so that it would fit in the center chamber.

As long as it's filled with fresh water, I see a nice vase for some flowers for the wife!!

Flower Petals GIF by SpongeBob SquarePants
 

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Foam or no foam (leveling mat)?

I know it's highly recommended on rimless tanks, but how does that apply for acrylic?

I know it's only a small 7.5 gallon. If we round down to 7, and don't include any livestock/equipment it's still ~60lbs.
 
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Foam or no foam (leveling mat)?

I know it's highly recommended on rimless tanks, but how does that apply for acrylic?

I know it's only a small 7.5 gallon. If we round down to 7, and don't include any livestock/equipment it's still ~60lbs.
As long as you place it on a flat and level surface, no need for foam.
 
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