Dinoflagellates – Are You Tired Of Battling Altogether?

[Porpoise Hork]

Awesome!

So you kept phosphates very low or was your target 0.05 - 0.10?

I wanted to keep them low to avoid a potential bloom of nuisance algae. I looked at all the available options and went with Aquavitro Planted as it seemed the safest chem to dose and is primarily phosphorus. It's extremely concentrated and the dose is 7ml for 250g to raise it .15, so for 87g it should have been about 2.2ml so I started with 1ml and tested phosphates until I got .003 then stepped up the dose to 1.25ml as that was what was needed to maintain it in the .005-.010 range.

 

[Reefer1978]

I wanted to keep them low to avoid a potential bloom of nuisance algae. I looked at all the available options and went with Aquavitro Planted as it seemed the safest chem to dose and is primarily phosphorus. It's extremely concentrated and the dose is 7ml for 250g to raise it .15, so for 87g it should have been about 2.2ml so I started with 1ml and tested phosphates until I got .003 then stepped up the dose to 1.25ml as that was what was needed to maintain it in the .005-.010 range.

Do you know which species you had?

 

[Porpoise Hork]

The closest match I could make to what I had was ostreopsis.

 

[Pdxlucas]

Have you identified the type with a microscope? (Oops sounds like you are doing that now...) Some species can be eradicated relatively quickly with a UV sterilizer plumbed directly in and out of the tank. About one watt of UV for every 2 or 3 gallons and flow about 1 to 3 tank gallons per hour through it. Also, be sure to keep running GAC through a reactor to remove toxins.

 

[reeferfoxx]

Ok I have a 10g simp with a reef octopus classic 110 internal skimmer. I always run carbon with a brs reactor. I’ve had a coralife turbo twist UV sterilizer 9 watt in the sump. I run filter socks as well. I added some ecobak ez bio sticks to the sump in a media bag to try and lower the nitrates (didn’t make much of a difference however I still have them in there. I tried to upload a microscope picture but I don’t think it worked. I’ll try again.

I see them but i'm having a hard time identifying them? But it looks like it has an amphidinium notch on it.

 

[Pdxlucas]

I see them but i'm having a hard time identifying them? But it looks like it has an amphidinium notch on it.

Not sure what that means. I really need a battle plan here.

 

[Jolanta]

Hi guys! What's new here? Any cure? My friend has Prorocentrum outbreake and I would like to help him. I killed my ostreospsis long time ago with UV and it didn't return, so I wasn't reading for a long time.

 

[Jolanta]

Hi guys! How are you? Long time with out visiting this treat. Any new cure? I killed ostreopsis with UV a long time ago but my friend has Prorocentrum outbreak and I would like to help him. What's best for Prorocentrum? Nutrients level?

 

[Jolanta]

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[Jolanta]

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[Pdxlucas]

Can someone please Id these little jerks for me and let me know how to get rid of them?

 

[reeferfoxx]

Not sure what that means. I really need a battle plan here.

Sorry. There are several different kinds of amphidinium. A google search suggests a possible ID to three amphidinium strains. None the less, amphidinium. They are the most difficult to eradicate.

Typically we just follow the first post to the thread. Check list as follows.

• Increase N and P to 10ppm and 0.10ppm
• Add UV
• Seed organisms via live rock or mud

Amphidinium specific

• Dose silicates to create diatom bloom
• Remove sandbed(optional)

Ive heard from several others that overdosing silicates and creating a large diatom bloom will outcompete amphidinium. Once the diatom bloom hits, let the tank naturally consume silicates and let the diatoms disappear on their own.

 

[reeferfoxx]

Hi guys! How are you? Long time with out visiting this treat. Any new cure? I killed ostreopsis with UV a long time ago but my friend has Prorocentrum outbreak and I would like to help him. What's best for Prorocentrum? Nutrients level?

Hey Jolanta! So far it is all just the same. Dose N and P, add UV, and Seed organisms.

 

[dwest]

Sorry. There are several different kinds of amphidinium. A google search suggests a possible ID to three amphidinium strains. None the less, amphidinium. They are the most difficult to eradicate.

Typically we just follow the first post to the thread. Check list as follows.

• Increase N and P to 10ppm and 0.10ppm
• Add UV
• Seed organisms via live rock or mud

Amphidinium specific

• Dose silicates to create diatom bloom
• Remove sandbed(optional)

Ive heard from several others that overdosing silicates and creating a large diatom bloom will outcompete amphidinium. Once the diatom bloom hits, let the tank naturally consume silicates and let the diatoms disappear on their own.

So you have heard of several successes of dosing silicates. That’s the only thing I haven’t tried for my amphidinium. I new people were trying but I never heard of any clear success stories.

 

[reeferfoxx]

So you have heard of several successes of dosing silicates. That’s the only thing I haven’t tried for my amphidinium. I new people were trying but I never heard of any clear success stories.

In the beginning we discovered that researchers trying to grow cultures couldnt do so without removing silica and silicates from tests.

Fast forward to today, im seeing more and more amphidinium cases with random siccess statements saying they used silicates and it worked. Before Taricha disappeared he told me it does help and could also be used to eradicate cyano. Who would have thought? It wouldn't hurt to try. I think the goal is to create an ugly diatom bloom rather than lightly dosing.

 

[Pdxlucas]

So you have heard of several successes of dosing silicates. That’s the only thing I haven’t tried for my amphidinium. I new people were trying but I never heard of any clear success stories.

I would also like to know that as well.

 

[Pdxlucas]

In the beginning we discovered that researchers trying to grow cultures couldnt do so without removing silica and silicates from tests.

Fast forward to today, im seeing more and more amphidinium cases with random siccess statements saying they used silicates and it worked. Before Taricha disappeared he told me it does help and could also be used to eradicate cyano. Who would have thought? It wouldn't hurt to try. I think the goal is to create an ugly diatom bloom rather than lightly dosing.

What product would I need to use to dose silicates?

 

[Jolanta]

Hey Jolanta! So far it is all just the same. Dose N and P, add UV, and Seed organisms.

Still not magic cure found Ok then we will try the natural way. Thank you Reeferfoxx.

 

[reeferfoxx]

Still not magic cure found Ok then we will try the natural way. Thank you Reeferfoxx.

You could try an experiment?

 

[Reefer1978]

Still not magic cure found Ok then we will try the natural way. Thank you Reeferfoxx.

Very hard to target a very specific, single organism.