Dino's, or cyano? Help!
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Get your test confirmed.
Po4 of one point zero is crazy high.
Mine is high. .25.
Po4 of one point zero is crazy high.
Mine is high. .25.
Po4 at 1.0 is very high.
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Possibly a little bit of GHA, with some dinos and possibly a little cyano swirled in together.
Bad test?
Get the test confirmed by a lfs or new test kit and we can go from there.
It's not difficult at all
No matter waht the Id , is you need, or I should say should find the root cause.
A black out is a bandaid at a po4 of one.zero
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Store confirmed 1.0, I figure its the issue.
Ive done a new water change today after getting home, and ive started my blackout this morning. Phosphate might not be zero yet but thats fine.
Blackout shouldnt really hurt my tank althought my fish are freaked out. I only have a GSP and hes surprisingly started growing on the rock quite well.
Hope for the best.
The easy soloution is actually to just scrub the rock in a bucket. A lot less hassle then black outs. Even if the blackout slows it down the nutrints from the algae is just going to stay in the tank.
We actually don't want a true zero po4. It means starving corals.
Phosphates bind to rock.unlike nitrates water changes don't effect phosphates much.
So you can use a gfo to pull it (po4)off slowly over time or a lanthanm chloride to remove it quickly. Phosphate RX is one product that does that.
With no coral in the tank it would be pretty easy to do.
We actually don't want a true zero po4. It means starving corals.
Phosphates bind to rock.unlike nitrates water changes don't effect phosphates much.
So you can use a gfo to pull it (po4)off slowly over time or a lanthanm chloride to remove it quickly. Phosphate RX is one product that does that.
With no coral in the tank it would be pretty easy to do.
Looking at your rocks I would consider the full blown scrub brush my friend , and some peroxide.Okay so I'll scrub my rocks tomorrow with what do you suggest, toothbrush?
Also it keeps growing back about an hour after siphoning
In a sand bed that shallow I'd vaccume the heck out of it.
I've had to rebuild my smaller tank a few times and it's pretty easy.
One you get the po4 problem solved Your shallow sand will say pretty white too.
Some thing to consider is testing some of the rock. As we know po4 binds to rock. So it's possible one of your rocks has gone bad.
It's an easy test and is the tanknis clean it's even easier to do.
In a bucket with salt water put the rock in over night and test the po4. Thats it.
You can go slow.
Before a water change drop a rock in a bucket with a small powerhead.
I had a reallly really rotten rock once. Leaking nitrates and phosphates. It was really old and had basicly started to rot. Nitrate factory inside and leeching phosphate. Stupid thing was the most expensive rock I ever bought. Took months for me to figure it out.
So, if you look up the peroxide scrubbing thread. You take some water and peroxide and dunknthe rock in till it's clean and rise it off. Put it back in the tank.
Then when you want, take a rock out and put it in clean sea water with a power head. Leave it over night or 24 hrs and test the phosphate. It'll tell you if it's leaching.
Fwiw. When we do our normal tank testing , The majority of the po4 we test for is actually on the rock and sand, it's the amount that leaches into the tank water we are sampling.
That's the cyano most likely
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