Do you think we have gone too far with clownfish breeding?

[Kzang]

See, that whole glasses thing I mentioned to @Kzang

Show me on ORAs website where they state this. *Sips tea and eats some popcorn*

 

[DSC reef]

Show me on ORAs website where they state this. *Sips tea and eats some popcorn*

C'mon, that wasn't enough proof. Who sips tea while eating popcorn? That demands proof!

 

[WVNed]

I admit I don't care one way or the other about this. If I put a clown fish in my tank I want it to look like a clown fish.

If these fish are defective in a way that impares them I would assume they never would make it a size to sell or would have to be sold with a disclaimer that they require special circumstances to survive.

 

[WVNed]

Because they lack a dorsal fin these fish can be rather slow. Additionally, if the wen covers the eyes it can significantly impair their vision. All this means they won’t be able to compete for food with more “able-bodied” tankmates. In fact, they should ideally be kept in an aquarium containing only other ranchus and lionheads, although other slow varieties work as well.

Monstrosities have been created before and will again. I have never kept any of these kind of fish but I know about them

 

[JoshH]

Show me on ORAs website where they state this. *Sips tea and eats some popcorn*

Pretty sure a direct quote from ORA is just as good.

I admit I don't care one way or the other about this. If I put a clown fish in my tank I want it to look like a clown fish.

If these fish are defective in a way that impares them I would assume they never would make it a size to sell or would have to be sold with a disclaimer that they require special circumstances to survive.

To be fair ORA's website says nothing about LongFin Clowns being slow swimmers and being susceptible to getting sucked into powerheads because of it. Theres no disclaimer stating that maybe they should be kept in lower flow tanks for there safety...

They even go so far as to say they swim and behave just like normal clowns. Now, it's certainly possible that maybe @TheHarold had some sick clowns, but I've seen few longfins and they aren't the most agile of fish...

 

[siggy]

ORA Unleashes Zombie Clownfish on the Masses - CORAL Magazine

It's taken several years, but Robert King's Zombie Albino Black Clownfish will now see wider distribution as a result of breeding efforts by ORA.

www.reef2rainforest.com

Me thinks this will be happening more and not just with clownish

 

[fcmatt]

since I did not create this thread I will be free with my thoughts.

yes.. these "designer" clowns are atrocious and I think they are ridiculous. just as dogs have been bred poorly over the last 100 years... these fish are another great example of taking something beautiful and making it uglier.

People have the right to buy whatever they want... but when they post them here don't be surprised to see some negativity and expect us just to ignore this trend and your thread.

have a nice day

 

[Loggerhead]

Or a limited edition "Waldo clown"

I had one of those! Turns out it was in my overflow for a few weeks.

 

[bigcapct]

No different than Ball Python breeders trying to come up with different morphs and combos.

 

[MPG]

Yes we have gone to far for the almighty dollar. Just because we can does not mean we should. We have plebty of choices let make sure the health is improved

 

[Heath Biggers]

I think Breeding for an amazing variety of color and pattern is great. Go as far as you can. I don’t really get having a physical impairment come out and then naming it and acting like it’s a good thing. To me Partial blindness would be a result of breeding that should not be selected for much less named and promoted

 

[Heath Biggers]

It's absolutely sickening if a breeder or company is selling and breeding disabled animals as a result of market demand.

I don’t think the market is demanding half blind clownfish . I’m not really sure why they would promote that

 

[Loverman Smith]

So I got this email the other day about ORAs new breed of clown fish "Zombie Clowns". Reading through this these new clowns look pretty cool, not something I would want myself but I could see the allure to them.

Upon further reading near the bottom of the article theres a little disclaimer stating that contrary to belief these fish aren't blind, but partially blind.

I don't know for sure if this is a byproduct of the particular type of breeding it takes to get this type of clowns or not. But I would think it's somewhat related.

ORA Unleashes Zombie Clownfish on the Masses - CORAL Magazine

It's taken several years, but Robert King's Zombie Albino Black Clownfish will now see wider distribution as a result of breeding efforts by ORA.

www.reef2rainforest.com

So my question is, do you think we have gone too far trying to come up with new patterns of clowns? Have we gone so far as to accept breeding to the point of relatively disabled fish? What are your thoughts on this?

Good Question , I think the same thing about the poodle & the kardashys

 

[Oldsalt]

I personally don't find designer clowns appealing.

 

[PurpleMonsterSlayer]

Using gene splicing I’ve been working on a few new breeds of clowns my self and there very healthy and stable.

 

[Forshurley]

I love my long fin and he hasn't been sucked up from the MP60s. He swims very strong and the streamers look great in the high flow.

 

[gar732]

So, having had a clown with a visual impairment I can say I’d expect these clowns to do just fine in our home aquaria.

I used to breed clowns, designer clowns, gasp. One of the fish somehow damaged it’s eye as a fry and while I thought about culling the fish, my daughter felt bad for it and looked for it every day. We called it one eyed Willie. One eyed Willie turned to have a beautiful snowcasso type pattern. And in fact became the dominant clown amongst the others it was kept with. One eyed Willie became a female and a name change was in order. Enter one eyed Willa. All with a 50% decrease in its vision.

While I personally don’t like the fish in question, I don’t believe it will have any issues in our tanks. I think the long finned clowns are terrible looking but some people like them, to each their own.

 

[Bryce M.]

Personally I have a black ice and I love her and she is paired with a picasso
I love longfins but these zombies aren't even appealing

 

[Macey’s Reef]

I want one that can fetch and clean the glass.

 

[Terri Caton]

I agree I do like some designers. But what's next, Reindeer clowns?

Little clownfish wheelchairs.