Dump all the rocks in hydrogen peroxide?

Michel

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 24, 2020
Messages
97
Reaction score
64
Location
The Netherlands
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I've been battling with this tank for so long... I've tried so many things but nothing is working.
A few weeks/months ago I've imported a bottle of Vibrant from the USA because I see so many people having good luck with it.
I have been dosing it weekly and also twice a week for a long time with the recommended dosage but not a single thing has improved.
When i test the water, everything is good (exept 0 no3/po4 what I always have). The corals are also doing good (when not covered in the algae).

I have manual removed it so many times but you can just see it comme back in a few days.

I don't even know what type of algea/bacteria this is and also nobody else seems to be able to tell me what it is.
At this point I'm just thinking about cleaning all the rocks in a bucket of hydrogen peroxide, is this be a good idea?
Does this also kill all the good bacteria? I'm kinda worried about the tank getting back in the cycle phase with nitrite spikes and stuff.
I also have fish, shrimps and crabs in the tank and I don't want them to die.


20210612_170951.jpg
20210612_170955.jpg
20210612_171001.jpg
20210612_171016.jpg
20210612_171026.jpg
20210612_171102.jpg
20210612_171109.jpg
 

brandon429

why did you put a reef in that
View Badges
Joined
Dec 9, 2014
Messages
29,680
Reaction score
23,709
Location
tejas
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Don't do that plan

Do the surgical detailing we show in the giant peroxide thread kicked up here in the forum its like 40 pages, can't miss
 

Jekyl

GSP is the devil and clowns are bad pets
View Badges
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
11,505
Reaction score
15,827
Location
Michigan
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Is this the tank that is 5 years old? Should be covered in coraline instead of algae.
 
OP
OP
Michel

Michel

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 24, 2020
Messages
97
Reaction score
64
Location
The Netherlands
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Is this the tank that is 5 years old? Should be covered in coraline instead of algae.
This is one of my 2 tanks (yes, both are about 5 years old, I think this one is about 6 years)

But it does have a lot of coraline algae. Suprisingly almost none is growing on the rocks but a lot on the glass and backplate which I dont like and scrape off sometimes. you can see some new spots of coraline algea grow on the back.
 
OP
OP
Michel

Michel

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 24, 2020
Messages
97
Reaction score
64
Location
The Netherlands
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Don't do that plan

Do the surgical detailing we show in the giant peroxide thread kicked up here in the forum its like 40 pages, can't miss
Could you please share the link to that thread? When I use the search tool for "Hydrogen peroxide" I only see small threads with a few replies (not even close to 40 pages)
 

brandon429

why did you put a reef in that
View Badges
Joined
Dec 9, 2014
Messages
29,680
Reaction score
23,709
Location
tejas
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
This one here has several jobs where we target the invasion vs dips

 

LateStageReefer

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 4, 2020
Messages
33
Reaction score
79
Location
Ontario
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
how long has the tank been running with zero nitrates and phosphates? This could be the source of the problem.
 

Tamberav

7500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Jul 4, 2014
Messages
9,550
Reaction score
14,634
Location
Wauwatosa, WI
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I would not dip the rocks as it appears to be a small tank with only a few rocks. Peroxide will harm the good things too and your shrimp is particularly sensitive.

While I have dipped entire rocks…. My tank is 80g so dipping a few out of many was not an issue.
 

jurgenph

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Jul 9, 2018
Messages
602
Reaction score
679
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
that looks like green cyano.

you can dose the tank with hydrogen peroxide. 1ml per 10 gal. (i have hone higher dose without problems)

or hit it with chemiclean.

J.
 
OP
OP
Michel

Michel

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 24, 2020
Messages
97
Reaction score
64
Location
The Netherlands
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I have cleaned the rocks a bit yesterday. I did blow all the slimey stuff off with a turkey baster and added a pump above the sand so it could not settle down and all went in the filter sock really fast.

So this is how the rocks look like without all the slime stuff. I think this will be a better start when trying Hydrogen Peroxide.

20210613_133146.jpg
20210613_133022.jpg
20210613_133116.jpg


20210613_133009.jpg
 

bluebird-hgm

New Member
View Badges
Joined
Oct 26, 2020
Messages
6
Reaction score
2
Location
Centreville, Va
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I've been battling with this tank for so long... I've tried so many things but nothing is working.
A few weeks/months ago I've imported a bottle of Vibrant from the USA because I see so many people having good luck with it.
I have been dosing it weekly and also twice a week for a long time with the recommended dosage but not a single thing has improved.
When i test the water, everything is good (exept 0 no3/po4 what I always have). The corals are also doing good (when not covered in the algae).

I have manual removed it so many times but you can just see it comme back in a few days.

I don't even know what type of algea/bacteria this is and also nobody else seems to be able to tell me what it is.
At this point I'm just thinking about cleaning all the rocks in a bucket of hydrogen peroxide, is this be a good idea?
Does this also kill all the good bacteria? I'm kinda worried about the tank getting back in the cycle phase with nitrite spikes and stuff.
I also have fish, shrimps and crabs in the tank and I don't want them to die.


20210612_170951.jpg
20210612_170955.jpg
20210612_171001.jpg
20210612_171016.jpg
20210612_171026.jpg
20210612_171102.jpg
20210612_171109.jpg
I dipped some live rock in hydrogen peroxide in my 45g tank and the algae disappeared and never came back on those rocks. However, I have had mixed results when my coral were exposed to it so be careful.
 
OP
OP
Michel

Michel

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 24, 2020
Messages
97
Reaction score
64
Location
The Netherlands
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
This one here has several jobs where we target the invasion vs dips

Thank you for the link. I'm at page 5 now so I need to do some more reading but for whats I've seen so far is people sharing their experiences. I see people dipping rocks in Peroxide, taking rocks out and spraying it on, I see people adding 1ml peroxide to 10g tankwater in their reef.

Is there a specific route u wanna push me to? or will I figure that out when I continue reading? :)
how long has the tank been running with zero nitrates and phosphates? This could be the source of the problem.
For about 5 years :p
I have 2 nano tank and in both I have never been able to get no3/po4 readings (unless I dose every day)
I have recently made a post about this (from my other tank)
( https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/n...ding-in-5-years-10g-nano.833247/#post-8995713 )

I would not dip the rocks as it appears to be a small tank with only a few rocks. Peroxide will harm the good things too and your shrimp is particularly sensitive.

While I have dipped entire rocks…. My tank is 80g so dipping a few out of many was not an issue.
Thank you for the tip about the shrimp, I read it more. But I have 2 tanks so I can also put the 2 shrimps in my other tank to be safe.

that looks like green cyano.

you can dose the tank with hydrogen peroxide. 1ml per 10 gal. (i have hone higher dose without problems)

or hit it with chemiclean.

J.
I have tried chemicals (not chemiclean). At first I had red cyano, but after using those chemicals the red cyano went away and green showed up
 

brandon429

why did you put a reef in that
View Badges
Joined
Dec 9, 2014
Messages
29,680
Reaction score
23,709
Location
tejas
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Let’s do one test rock before the big job


take out one and do the non dip surgical removal/ rasping option w peroxide on the clean parts, set back in and monitor to see if worth upscaling to the full tank
 

Quietman

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
May 14, 2017
Messages
3,264
Reaction score
10,873
Location
Indiana - born and bred
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Feel your pain. Having similar issue with my 2 yo tank - detectable but low nutrients 3/.03 N/P and I keep seeing algae return aggressively within a week of cleaning. I've never had high nutrients. Used NoPoX early on, tried Vibrant (great on some bubble algae little on the GHA), did some targeted removal and scrubbed rocks with H2O2 (helped for a time but not long term).

I just installed an algae scrubber (RAIN2 from Santa Monica) 2 days ago and removed my skimmer (only had room for one). I'm hopeful it out competes the algae in the tank. I'm posting results in my build thread...don't expect anything significant for 2-3 weeks.

Good luck!
 

Being sticky and staying connected: Have you used any reef-safe glue?

  • I have used reef safe glue.

    Votes: 150 88.8%
  • I haven’t used reef safe glue, but plan to in the future.

    Votes: 9 5.3%
  • I have no interest in using reef safe glue.

    Votes: 7 4.1%
  • Other.

    Votes: 3 1.8%
Back
Top