Echotech radions gen 4 pros or AI hydra 52 hds

Discussion in 'Equipment, Lighting, Hardware, Aquarium Filtration' started by Bml1024, Mar 19, 2017.

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Which one to choose?

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  1. Echotech gen 4 pro

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  2. AI hydra 52 hd

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  1. Bml1024

    Bml1024 Well-Known Member

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    Well I'm at the last and finally step and I am torn between which lights to go with. My tank is 180 gallon reef tank that will be housing fish, and tons of SPS, LPS, hard corals and nems. I can't decide which lights to choose though and wanted to get an order placed ASAP on them. Please help me lead in the right direction with this decision. I posted a picture of my tank below as well.

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  2. deaclauderdale

    deaclauderdale Well-Known Member

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    Gen4 Radions.
     
  3. Highgrade

    Highgrade Well-Known Member Partner Member

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    Gen4 for sure.
     
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    johanngh1977 Well-Known Member

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    Kessil ap700 plus t5 retrofit
     
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  5. Bml1024

    Bml1024 Well-Known Member

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    Come on guys help me out here I'm stuck
     
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  6. deaclauderdale

    deaclauderdale Well-Known Member

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    The new G4's offer a wonderful spread, and there are several tanks on here with G4's that grow some really nice sps.
     
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  7. Bml1024

    Bml1024 Well-Known Member

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    They won't grow lps, hard corals or nems?
     
  8. deaclauderdale

    deaclauderdale Well-Known Member

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    Sure they will, they'll grown everything. May have to tone them down a bit though for certain LPS.
     
  9. Water Dog

    Water Dog Well-Known Member

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    How much is your budget? If budget isn't an issue, I'd go with at least 4 of either fixture mounted perpendicularly to the tank with the pucks of each fixture oriented from front to back. That will go a long way towards reducing shadows on a 24" wide tank.
     
  10. Bml1024

    Bml1024 Well-Known Member

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    Would 3 be enough? As I have 2 braces on the tank that will get in the way of the 4th one being added. Also how what hanging kit do you suggest for them?
     
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    I suppose you could do 3, but if you did do 3 and not 4, you'd be setting the fixtures up horizontally to the tank with the pucks of each fixture going from side to side, leading to a lot of fore to aft shadowing for a 24" wide tank. Is it possible, with proper spacing to do 2 fixtures perpendicularly in the middle section and one fixture each horizontally on the outer 2 sections? That way, you could keep LPS and other lower light corals on the ends of the tank where shadowing isn't as big a concern.

    As far as mounting options, are you using a canopy or open top? If open top, I think the factory RMS or the Hydra equivalents work well and would look nice.
     
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    OLDREEFER44 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    I decided to go with 2 Orphek Atlantics on my similar setup. Able to grow Acro's on the bottom of the tank and only have to deal with 2 fixtures.
     
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    Definitely better coverage and shadow reduction than puck style fixtures for sure.
     
  14. Bml1024

    Bml1024 Well-Known Member

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    So you're saying the orphecks are better than the radions?
     
  15. Water Dog

    Water Dog Well-Known Member

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    No not necessarily. It's the nature of puck style lighting. The less point sources of light (pucks) the more issues with shadowing. Hence the need for more fixtures then claimed by the manufacturers. However, with puck style fixtures, because the diodes are closer together, the color blending is better.

    With the Orphek, the individual diodes are spread over the entire fixture for less shadowing, but color blending is poorer leading to the oft heard of disco ball effect.

    Not necessarily saying one is better than the other... it's a trade off. That's why you see such a resurgenc in T5 lighting for many SPS keepers, speccifically the ATI T5 fixtures or LED with T5 supplementation.
     
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  17. Water Dog

    Water Dog Well-Known Member

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    GHL LX7's 6 pucks per fixture > Ecotech's Radion XR30's 2 pucks per fixture IMO.

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    If your going by pucks then OP needs to import some Philips "Coral Care's" :D
     
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    +1
    That's why I run a t5/led hybird.
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    Water Dog Well-Known Member

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    I'm currently have 2 Nanobox LED pucks retrofitted into my Biocube hood. I bought two spare pucks and will be retrofitting a total of 4 pucks into my 36" TEK Elite T5 fixture for a killer LED/T5 setup for my next upgrade.

     
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