Experimenting with in-tank antibiotic treatments for Brown Jelly Disease

[ncjeepguy75]

@AquaBiomics @Pharmasqueek

Still no avail on my situation...I have dosed the cipro at .125 mg/L every other day now...I did 500mg cipro in 50ml rodi to get 10 mg/L solution...I have 100 gallons so ~379 L...that requires a 47.375 mg dose but since I did a 10mg/L soln that leaves me with 4.7 ml of soln to dose...

The brown still comes back every morning. I am trying to be patient but just concerned as it seems to be agitating the coral.

Parameters:
Temp: 79.9 F
pH: 8.1
Ammonia: 0
NItrite: 0
Nitrate: 8.2
Phosphate: .04
Salinity: 35
Alkalinity: 8.5
Calcium: 420
Magnesium: 1400

 

[Ajayabb]

@AquaBiomics @Pharmasqueek

Still no avail on my situation...I have dosed the cipro at .125 mg/L every other day now...I did 500mg cipro in 50ml rodi to get 10 mg/L solution...I have 100 gallons so ~379 L...that requires a 47.375 mg dose but since I did a 10mg/L soln that leaves me with 4.7 ml of soln to dose...

The brown still comes back every morning. I am trying to be patient but just concerned as it seems to be agitating the coral.

Parameters:
Temp: 79.9 F
pH: 8.1
Ammonia: 0
NItrite: 0
Nitrate: 8.2
Phosphate: .04
Salinity: 35
Alkalinity: 8.5
Calcium: 420
Magnesium: 1400

Anecdotal at best, but I had to double the dose and dose daily for total of 5 days to achieve eradication of BJD in my 110 Gallon tank

 

[ncjeepguy75]

Anecdotal at best, but I had to double the dose and dose daily for total of 5 days to achieve eradication of BJD in my 110 Gallon tank

@Ajayabb thanks for the info...I will give that a try!

 

[thirst]

Any insight as to why every day or every other day dosing?

 

[Infern0]

Hello guys, yesterday night I have noticed that my Torch does not doing great, but i put that on the lights going out. Today morning my torch ist fast melting away, i did noticed a little brown thing like a algae on the torch so i blow it away with a Turkey blaster. Now my concern is that that could be Brown Jelly diseas. I have dip the coral in Iodine about 15 min and I read on the forum about treating the tank with Cipro. I have mixed the Cipro solution already, now my question is…should I wait until the lights go off ( in about 10 Hours) ….could be something else that did that to the torch..? I have another 4 torches in the tank, like a torch garden that seems to do great, i have just zoas and torches in the tank and all looks happy. First foto was tooken last night, the other ones this morning( Austria time, Europe)

 

[MartinM]

I highly recommend the protocol here, try it out and let us know!

 

[Rimsky]

Any insight as to why every day or every other day dosing?

I have a the same question. Why every other day? Wouldn’t it be better to dose daily?

 

[tundraguy1106]

I have a the same question. Why every other day? Wouldn’t it be better to dose daily?

I’m Currently dosing daily for 5-7 days. Then I’ll do a water change. I’m also dosing slightly heavier than what’s recommended.

 

[Miami Reef]

@AquaBiomics

Does adding live rocks/sand/mud increase the chance of adding this acrobacter bacteria? Will brown jelly come back and harm the coral again?

 

[Rimsky]

Is Arcobacter the same as Vibrio? Will Cipro kill Vibrio?

 

[taricha]

Does adding live rocks/sand/mud increase the chance of adding this acrobacter bacteria? Will brown jelly come back and harm the coral again?

Adding live rock/ sand/ mud adds hundreds of strains of bacteria, there's a chance it would introduce a coral pathogen, anecdotally it seems to have happened to some.

Aquabiomics sells carefully screened live rock rubble that they have tested to avoid just such a possibility.

Is Arcobacter the same as Vibrio? Will Cipro kill Vibrio?

different bacteria. But Cipro is a widely used antibiotic, and Vibrio a widely studied bacteria. So it ought to be a straightforward answer to find.
seems like the answer is yes.

 

[Miami Reef]

@taricha @AquaBiomics

Does the “acrobacter” strain free swimming or travels via hard surfaces?

In the original post, @AquaBiomics said he had brown jelly and he cut the infected parts and added them to a separate euphyllia tank. The next couple of days the corals in the uninfected tank started to get BJD. Does that imply that this disease travels through the water column? So does implementing a UV sterilizer prevent transmission?

 

[taricha]

Some amount of bacteria will be in the water.
To be clear, the overwhelming majority will be in the brown jelly itself, UV won't do anything about the bacteria at the site of infection.
Nor would a UV in a sump or pulling from the top of the display prevent transmission from an infected coral to another a few inches away.
But yes, if water was forced to travel through quality UV, that water ought not be able to transmit the bacterial disease.

 

[tundraguy1106]

Just finished dosing my tank (140 gallons total volume). I dissolved 1 500 mg tablet in 50 ml of RO water. I then dosed 10 ml of this solution per night after lights out for 5 straight days. I then did a small water change after the 5th day (15 gallons) Everything has been looking better. Some of my zoanthids that were struggling are coming back. It looks like I saved my two blastos from BJD. I’m definitely a believer in Cipro treatment and I’m glad I tried it out.

 

[Kerbash]

My elegance is showing sign of brown jelly after moving tank. Did an iodine dip and moved him into a QT tank now, I dont really have cipro on hand do you think kanamycin would work? thanks.

 

[mdb_talon]

My elegance is showing sign of brown jelly after moving tank. Did an iodine dip and moved him into a QT tank now, I dont really have cipro on hand do you think kanamycin would work? thanks.

I have been using kanaplex for awhile now on sickly coral(not for BJD). I found it works well for my purposes and if you dont have cipro i think it would be worth a shot for bjd. If it is bjd and you so nothing it will be dead anyway so no harm in trying. However when i use kanaplex i dont dose tank but rather keep the sick coral in a tupperware(floating in tank for temp) for three days and i use about 5x the dose recommended for fish treatment in tank.

I would also order some cipro asap. Wont get it soon enough for your elegance but of it starts spreading in tank you will want it for trying to save others

 

[Kerbash]

I have been using kanaplex for awhile now on sickly coral(not for BJD). I found it works well for my purposes and if you dont have cipro i think it would be worth a shot for bjd. If it is bjd and you so nothing it will be dead anyway so no harm in trying. However when i use kanaplex i dont dose tank but rather keep the sick coral in a tupperware(floating in tank for temp) for three days and i use about 5x the dose recommended for fish treatment in tank.

I would also order some cipro asap. Wont get it soon enough for your elegance but of it starts spreading in tank you will want it for trying to save others

thanks for the reply, I up the dose like you said last night and today the brown jelly seemed to have stopped! Crossing my fingers. He also looks a lot happier now opening up an stuff.

 

[andresantos]

I had issues with my LPS for over a year. Lost some blastos, torches and acants, but all my SPS been fine. So 2 days ago saw some brown jelly on my favia frag! Started treatment yesterday in my display 400L tank. Let’s see how it goes!

 

[woejillis]

How are folks getting their Ciprofloxacin? I can't seem to find it available without a pet prescription.

 

[shakacuz]

How are folks getting their Ciprofloxacin? I can't seem to find it available without a pet prescription.

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