Fish dying...

Discussion in 'Fish Disease Treatment and Diagnosis' started by AmandaRaeJean, Jan 2, 2018.

  1. Brew12

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    When it comes to sick fish, its only easy to catch them when they in a state that makes them hard to save.

    When I do a FW dip I take some RODI (I have a storage tank), put it in a ziplock freezer bag, and float it in my tank for a few minutes to bring it up to temp. That way I know it is an exact match.
     
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    I like GC myself, but it isn't reef safe. That is only an option if a QT system can be set up. Prazi by itself can be dosed into the DT.
     
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    I ended up using what the video used. Not a bucket. Had to deconstruct the tank to catch him. Hopefully it works. White spots def came off him. He still has some white spots that didn't fully come off, will that just fall off eventually? [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Thinking about waiting to construct the tank he is laying on sand bed....maybe recovering? [​IMG]
     
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    Were those white spots there before the dip or did they turn white during the dip? Odds are they will fall off on their own if they turned white during the dip.

    The pictures aren't too clear but it sure looks like flukes that came off. Would you say it was a large number that came off? Can't be sure it was the only problem but he should get some immediate relief. If the damage hasn't been too severe the fish should start acting better in an hour or 2.

    A FW dip won't completely eliminate flukes so you will still want to treat your display tank with Prazipro. Unless you have feather dusters or a large bristleworm population it should be safe to use in your tank.
     
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    I'd give it an hour or two. The poor little guy has been through a lot.
     
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    No white spots were there before the dip. His color looks better already, but don't want to get my hopes up. I'll be treating tomorrow. Local fish's store is closing soon, I wouldn't make it. I hope he makes it.
     
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    The FW dip should buy him time. Can you give a rough estimate on how many flukes/white spots fell off?

    Velvet is still a possibility and would need much more aggressive treatment. The FW dip will provide temporary relief from both flukes and velvet.
     
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    Ah, yes. You must be freezing down there. I am in NH. haha!

    Good luck catching him and I hope that the dip does some good, but just be mentally prepared for the fact that it might not go as you hope. Also, be prepared to stay with the fish and move him back to SW if he stresses hard. A FW dip is not really a timed thing more of a sit and watch the fish the whole time thing. Fingers crossed for you. Hoping that all goes well for the removal and for the treatment.
     
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    Oops! Looks like I missed a bit before posting.

    Glad to see some improvement. Were you able to get any clear pics of what came off of the fish after the dip?
     
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    There wasn't a lot of flukes that I visibly saw fall off. Probably like 3 or 4 that I could see. Once I scooped him out, there was a good amount, like 8-10 on the bottom of the container. I have never treated for velvet before....
     
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    No, I wasnt able to get any pictures of what came off after the dip. What I could tell is that it looked like white flakes at the bottom of the container. Some were floating around and it looked like flat white salt at the bottom. Some were curvy, but that the best I can describe. It was scary seeing white spots come out of know where...and his color looked better minutes after he was out of the dip.
     
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    That's great to hear that he is looking better. Hopefully you can keep him on the right track. Just keep in mind that there is a good chance that there are still flukes in the tank since there are hosts there. You should be okay to cautiously treat the tank with prazipro keeping in mind that it will kill off any other worms in the tank even decorative ones like feather dusters and could quickly pollute the tank if they are unseen. If he begins to eat you've got to get him fattened up a bit too. :)
     
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    Prazipro could come in use with the worms my coral banded shrimp are not eating .... only reason I got him was to eat the bristle worms. Lol
     
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    Let's hope that the flukes were are biggest problem. I would have liked to have seen more come off but those things looked pretty darn large if the pictures are accurate. Just keep an eye out for that powdery/salt like covering. And rapid breathing. Or if he starts swimming into a powerhead.

    It is pretty crazy the first time you see things turn white and start popping off a fish.
     
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    When you add the Prazi keep an eye on your water quality. You could get an ammonia spike. You may want to pick up some Prime when you pick up the Prazipro in case you do get an ammonia spike.
     
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    It's really great to see you working so hard to save your fish. Kudos for your efforts.
     
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    Do you have a quarantine tank setup in case you need to treat for ich or velvet?
     
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    Thank you. I do not have a quarantine tank at the moment. I plan on setting up one again. I had a 75 gallon that I used, but sold it to make room for my frag tank. I have been fortunate in acclimating in all my tanks.

    My blue hippo in my 300 has ich, but it's being managed. She showed no signs in store, ate tons. Next morning after she was acclimated, she showed her true colors. Lol. Can't catch her, I feed plenty of food, and dose with garlic, and her spots rarely show. Been lucky. [​IMG]
     
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    Every fish bought anywhere anymore has flukes or ich or something. It’s really a joke they charge the prices they do. You probably have better odds to go to the casino and spend your money there. QT is a must now days
     
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