A friend from my local reef club has what is the so called top of the line in T5 your beloved ATI fixture. It is 10 months old and he started to have an issue with it so he opened it up to see what was going on and lookie what was found on the inside of the fixture. Thats right these ATI fixtures are now being made in China. That makes these fixtures nothing more than a hydrofarm with some fans in it and triple the price tag. Same with you black boxes everyone says they are crap but I see some really nice reefs out there running them at a fraction of the cost of your AI and other LEDs out there that I am willing to bet are mostly made in China as well. Just wanted to leave this here to show you that sometime you get what you paid for but at a certain point you are just paying a higher price tag for the same stuff with a different brand slapped on it.