From the 34g to the 90g

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  1. mch1984

    mch1984 Active Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor Hub City Reef Club

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    Got my valves in today, but had to do some quick customization.

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    So I know I am a ways out from this but wanted to get some input while I'm waiting on the rock to get here and start that process. I want to discuss the cycle. I understand what it is and how it processes and all that, but I've read a lot of different methods and wanted to see what you guys thought about my plan. I watched the BRS ULM tank series and really liked the process they had decided to go through with a few modifications. I'm not going for an ULM tank but still like their cycle ideas, so here is my plan.

    1st month - Black out the tank, no lights on. Add cheato, refugium lighting, and pods from day one. I plan on using the red sea cycle kit and will start it at this point.

    2nd month - take the black out off but continue to run with no lights. Probably add a small clean up crew at this point and try to introduce coraline. Add more pods and increase refugium lighting times.

    3rd month - slowly start running light and probably add some more clean up crew and my first fish at this point.

    Any edits or suggestions on this would be greatly appreciated it's just my initial though on it. I
     
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    Plan was to dry fit all the plumbing this weekend until I realized the return bulk head was thread instead of slip. So I’ll have to go back to Lowe’s and get a couple more supplies. But I got started anyways. The valves are going to be so close that I’ll have to turn one to the side so the handles have room.

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    Looking good!
     
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    Thanks! Finished the dry fit today, there will probably be some slight adjusting once the varios gets here. Even did some loc line work.

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    Good-looking plumbing! I like the purple pvc. Good call. :)
     
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    thank you! I kind of just ran with it because the tank came with it but it's going to end up looking good.
     
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    So I had my first failure and the Tank isn’t even running yet. My idea to rent my RO/DI system will not work. I apparently blasted through his little DI resin in a week. They were good about it and removed the DI and basically just was dropped the monthly price by a lot. So it looks like I’ll be using that one for drinking water and Friday I’ll be ordering the RODI just for aquarium use.
     
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    How on earth did you manage burning through DI resin in a week??
     
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    A crappy tiny little di filter and about 50 gallons of water. He thought it could handle it and he was WAY wrong.
     
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    Still surprising, 50 gallons of water is barely a spec compared to what even a filter 1/4 the size of a regular DI canister.... do you know your TDS at all??
     
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    From the tap around 1200, I was getting about 15 pre DI and 0 after. When I tested before I was going to do a water change I was up to 60, that’s what made me call them in.
     
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    1200 TDS??? Wow.... that's pretty extreme, well or city water??
     
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    City water, yeah it sucks. Makes it tough to get good water for the tank. I think I’ll be going 150 gallon per day 4 stage with three DI canisters with a booster pump.
     
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    If you're wanting the 150gpd I would get dual 75gpd membranes. They tend to have a much higher rejection rate than the higher capacity membranes. Where were you getting the 60 TDS reading from? Pre or post DI?
     
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    That was post DI when I realized something was wrong. Yeah I was going to go through BRS for it and I’m pretty sure that’s how they do theirs.
     
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    Yes that is how there's is set up but TBH it might not be worth it in your case with such a high TDS. So you were getting 15 TDS post RO and 60 post DI?
     
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    Sorry let me explain that again lol. When it was first installed I was getting 15 pre DI and 0 post. Then when I realized something was wrong about a week after instal it was 60 after DI.

    Why don’t you think it would be worth it? I mean I have to do something with the water. Think there is a better way?
     
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    When it was 60 after the DI did you happen to check what it was coming out of the RO?? And generally any tap water with 3-400+ TDS isn't worth running two RO filters in series as the second membrane will in your case more than likely be dealing with 1500+ TDS and after the two membranes you will probably be having to deal with 40+ TDS with your DI which will burn it up just as quickly as you have been.
     
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    No I didn’t check it pre DI, didn’t think about it. So your saying it would be better to run a single membrane?
     
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