Gsp not opening and Zoas covered in green algae

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  1. Donttouchthebutt

    Donttouchthebutt Member

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    I need help, my gsp has not been open for about a week but I know it’s still alive because it has not lost it’s purple color. I moved it higher in the tank to a spot with more flow but it has not done anything so far. My zoanthids are covered in this green algae and don’t seem to be opening too well either. I tried to gently brush the algae off with a toothbrush. I was wondering if anyone had any advice for me. I do water changes about every week or so and there seems to be no water parameter issues. I was wondering if my LEDs might be too much for them, I have a 12 inch LED white strip and a blue strip. I was thinking about ordering a dimmer to make the white light less intense for them. What do you guys think?
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    Jeepguy242 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    how old is your tank and what are the parameters....

    looks like you have alot of something going on there with all of the white stuff on the rocks
     
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    The tank is about 2 years old
    Give me a second and I’ll send the parameters, I don’t know it off the top of my head
     
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    I’m gonna retake them right now to make sure
     
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    Parameters
    Nitrate - 0 ppm
    Ammonia - 0.25 - 0.50 ppm
    Nitrate - 0 ppm
    Phosphate - 0 ppm
     
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    Nitrite I meant is - 0 ppm
     
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    Jeepguy242 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    if you have ammonia and no nitrates you have problems in a 2 year old tank...

    i would start a syphon and start sucking out all the junk on the rocks and replace with freshly made saltwater to start... something is throwing off your balance and there is no bacteria to convert the ammonia to nitrates

    after the water change add some prime to help with the ammonia

    are you using RO water?
     
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    You should have no ammonia.
     
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    Yea I have an RO/DI filter I use to make my water.

    So I should have no ammonia and some nitrates?
     
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    Jeepguy242 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    yes.... ammonia shows that something is off.... the cycle goes... ammonia.... then nitrite... then nitrate....

    a tank 2 years old should have some nitrates.... having ammonia shows that it has not cycled yet...

    all the furry stuff on your rock shows that there is something happening.... i see no corraline algae, there is something WAY wrong going on... we need to figure out what...


    so, RO water, i see something on the back of the tank that looks like it might have been coraline algae at one time but either died or bleached....


    lets have a full breakdown of your system

    size?
    sump?
    lights?
    skimmer?
    refugium?

    help us help you... we need more info
     
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    Okay thank you for your help

    25 gallon tank
    Yes I have a sump, with a sock filter
    Two 12 inch LEDs one white light and one blue light
    Yes I have a skimmer
    No I do not have a refugium
     
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    ok, lets get this figured out....

    is your skimmer making nasties?
    how often do you clean the filter sock?
    what fish? crabs? snails? do you have and how many?
    how often do you do a water change? and how much water each time?
    do you syphon off the detritus off the rock each time?
    how deep is your sand if you have any at all?
    what kind of flow do you have? powerheads?
     
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    Jeepguy242 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    anybody feel free to jump in if i missed something... i am far from an expert here....
     
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    Okay my skimmer does produce guck but it has not been on for about a week
    I actually just cleaned the filter sock , but I would say about once a month
    No fish, I think I have about 4 crabs and 2 snails left, I’m planning on going to get more
    I water change about once every week to 2 weeks , 5 gallons each time
    I syphon deep into the sand bed and just graze over my rocks because I don’t like to move them around too much
    My sand bed is about an inch deep
    I have a return pump from my sump that produces the flow in my tank
     
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    run the skimmer 24/7
    filter sock needs to be cleaned minimum once a week preferably more
    your crabs and snails.... you say "left" have they been dying?
    take the big tube off of your syphon and use just the little tube to suck the rocks clean... you dont need to disturb the sand bed... it will contain the bacteria you need to brake down the ammonia into nitrate... my guess is you have always had ammonia and your tank has not really cycled in the time you have had it.. stuff is dying because of the ammonia and if you are not getting it out it is adding to the problem
    water change 5 gallons per week till you get the tank cleared up
    add some stuff to help keep the sanded stirred up like sand sifting stars... but only after we get the ammonia problem fixed
     
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    you dont need to move the rock to syphon it...

    watch this and see how he does it around the 14 minute mark..

     
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    I’m a noob. My tank is less than a year old so take my advice with a grain of salt. I’m a big fan of poly filter. It removes or at least helps to remove slot of stuff free m your water. I’ve been lucky, knock on wood, and not had any major issues with algae but that could be because of my rank being young.
     
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    you need to get all that junk off your rock to let the good bacteria grow....

    in cases where you have alot, run the syphon into a clean filter sock in your sump so you can get all the junk without having to do a water change... i do it all the time to clean the rock, then do the water change...
     
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    it does.... but only when you take it out and clean it... once a month is not enough.... when i do run filter socks i clean them every 2-3 days....

    get 5 or 6 and keep them in a bucket of 10% bleach.... take one out, rinse it really good, and change it with the sock in your sump

    if you dont then you are just letting junk decompose and add to the pollution problem
     
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    Okay will do, the only thing is when my protein skimmer is on it produces a lot of bubbles in my sump which makes my tank cloudy
    I’m not sure how to fix it
     
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