How can we (R2R & YOU) help each other more in 2021? HELP ME, HELP YOU!
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Jib
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yeah, I understand this concern as well. I think it comes down to culture. This forum is moderated better than Reddit (which gets very toxic) and there is already and engrained culture here. It’s doesn’t have to be “dislike” but a thoughtful way for folks to show there may be something up with a comment without quoting it and calling it out directly.
I’ll make my suggestion for improvement first, then save the praises for the general functioning of the site second.
There are some people who contribute to this site who are very knowledgeable and respected in their field of expertise. I wish there were someway you could identify those people. The rest of us just have opinions. These opinions are helpful but carry the weight of an amateur evaluation. Tell us who the experts are. Thank you.
This is one of the most respectful discussion sites I have found.
There are some people who contribute to this site who are very knowledgeable and respected in their field of expertise. I wish there were someway you could identify those people. The rest of us just have opinions. These opinions are helpful but carry the weight of an amateur evaluation. Tell us who the experts are. Thank you.
This is one of the most respectful discussion sites I have found.
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I want a change to the TOS that’s not so...Puritanical, about gender identity and sexual orientation.
“Discussion of gender identity and sexual orientation are prohibited.”
Rev, I know you, Daniel, and I have had a conversation about this, and your reasoning behind it (attempting to not cause harm to the queer community via homophobic bullying, members asking insensitive questions, or talking about issues that younger reefers may not understand [their words not mine]), is well intentioned. But I still don’t think this is the best phrasing. Like, yes, I understand from our private conversation that I’m allowed to say “shhh, don’t tell my boyfriend he shouldn’t know about the $$$ fish I just bought” like some straight members say when they post, but this doesn’t come through in the TOS. The verbiage is just...off to me. It feels very stifling, as if to say “you are not allowed to mention you are not cisgender and/or not straight”.
“Discussion of gender identity and sexual orientation are prohibited.”
Rev, I know you, Daniel, and I have had a conversation about this, and your reasoning behind it (attempting to not cause harm to the queer community via homophobic bullying, members asking insensitive questions, or talking about issues that younger reefers may not understand [their words not mine]), is well intentioned. But I still don’t think this is the best phrasing. Like, yes, I understand from our private conversation that I’m allowed to say “shhh, don’t tell my boyfriend he shouldn’t know about the $$$ fish I just bought” like some straight members say when they post, but this doesn’t come through in the TOS. The verbiage is just...off to me. It feels very stifling, as if to say “you are not allowed to mention you are not cisgender and/or not straight”.
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Can we give a 1 to 5 rating for the emergency tag? I know we are all passionate but some of the “emergency” posts aren’t true emergencies... fish dying absolutely an emergency and help is needed right away maybe give it a 5. Lights won’t turn on, not so much of an emergency and might be a 1! I try to visit every emergency post I see if nothing else to learn something useful but sometimes I feel betrayed! Other than that we’re right as rain!
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Several functionalities for the forum:
The other perspective is content generation. I think R2R should invest more into articles. There are many highly recognized leaders/pioneers/educators here. R2R should commission them to write articles focusing on general topics, like common reefing methods, lights, filtration, flows, algae, specific coral care, disease, etc. Or reviews of categories of gears. These articles will also need to be revised/updated regularly. Maybe like topic of the month and rotate throughout the years. We collectively generated lots of content and knowledge here. Now we should put more focus on summarizing the learning so that everyone can benefit from them.
- Show only posts from OP in a thread.
- Allow OP (or other admin, or people granted permission), to bookmark important posts on a thread, and generate table of content from them. Could also generated from votes.
The other perspective is content generation. I think R2R should invest more into articles. There are many highly recognized leaders/pioneers/educators here. R2R should commission them to write articles focusing on general topics, like common reefing methods, lights, filtration, flows, algae, specific coral care, disease, etc. Or reviews of categories of gears. These articles will also need to be revised/updated regularly. Maybe like topic of the month and rotate throughout the years. We collectively generated lots of content and knowledge here. Now we should put more focus on summarizing the learning so that everyone can benefit from them.
As a newbie I think this is a great, well organized, and friendly site with a lot of helpful information. Here are some things that I have observed recently that could be improved upon.
- The search function seems a little clunky. I often type in a word phrase and find my results include the words being used individually.
- The general cleanup of threads. Example: selling threads should be posted as sold and/or closed, and/or removed if inactive or complete. Example: if the OP has received enough info they could close the thread; I often see responses to threads years after the fact, ok for a “great tank“ comment in a build thread not so much for “help, doser not working” thread.
- Sticky threads should remain as instructions or guidelines on a particular forum and no additional posting should be allowed to it. Example: Last night I was looking at the sticky for “Need help with your aquascape” thinking it was helpful hints etc. There were a bunch of folks who were actually looking for help and their threads were unanswered since most folks post their aquascape questions directly in the main Aquascape discussion area. Doesn’t sound like a big deal but look at page 76. I answered 4 individual posts last night and that created additional responses, now the page is losing its organization because instead of progression on a single OP thread you now have commingled progression of multiple OPs in single thread. The person asking for help is also not recognized as the OP because they didn’t originate the original sticky.
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i'm with the emergency tabs hanging on top of latest until answered ..too many too late
Anthony Scholfield
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I suggest making the SEARCH feature more pronounced or something. Make it a requirement before posting a new thread. Its like no one uses it here, all the repeat posts covering the same topics is crazy to me.
Its also my opinion that often times the community here is "nice" when instead they should be "loving". There is a big difference.
Yep, a "dislike" button would likely get abused but so does the "like" button. Some people like every comment made, haha, Doesnt mean it should not be an option. Also, its my opinion that for a forum to be truly open having the ability to "dislike" something is a part of that.
Its also my opinion that often times the community here is "nice" when instead they should be "loving". There is a big difference.
probably you mean that:
QUESTION OF THE DAY - How can we (R2R & YOU) help each other more in 2021? HELP ME, HELP YOU!
Another idea.....on another site I can drop a page or a reference into a "shoebox" so I don't have to search for it over the entire site again. It would be nice to save a particularly wise post in a "personal folder" for quick, easy reference later. on man i really like this. I have 3 R2R tabs...
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Simply bookmark the threads or the posts you want to see again or to reread ?
Rev, I think there is missing one of the options or I just don't see it, it's function of the media (the plugin) to can show you all of the photos you already post in the threads (all what you upload already).
I think what @Vette67 and @sfin52 is talking about isn't exactly that sort of media, because there, like I say you 1st have to create the albums and to upload the photos/media, after to go to the thread you want to post images/media and to select what you want to show in the post/thread.
I'm not completely sure which plugin is used for the forum to manage the media, but can you check isn't there the option (the checkbox) to allow us to see what we already upload for the posts ?
When I go in the "media" I don't see anything what I already upload, even using the filters.
I'm talking like you have the options to see "My Threads" or "My Posts", isn't there option to see and "my uploads" ?
lavoisier
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I would be careful about making changes to the forum. Having participated in other forums, I have found R2R to be a model of civility and as a result is an enjoyable space in my day. People tend to share their experience rather than pronounce the TRUTH. Unless a change reduces a moderator's work load I would shy away from implementing it. Keep it simple.
I think that will be very hard to be done properly, because who you think is going to get the decision which post/thread worth it more than another one? Everyone think his own is more worth it, so that Can't get it how can be achieved.
You have in the "like options" 3 emoticons which show disappoint or "dislike" , and the other thing, there are some haters, some people announce some users and dislike another users by them own reasons. At the end of the day it will come similar to the REDDIT I think.
Also at the bottom on the forum you can see "similar threads", also you (everyone always can use the "search" menu before post a question. and not at least Google have one VERY USEFUL OPTION: open Google search bar and type: " site: reef2reef.com ******* ****** ***** ", the " ******* ****** ***** " is the phrase word you are interested to find, if you search something like EXACT phrase, you can put it in " "quotes" " , that way you will search by EXACT what's in them
On few of the forums you have that "stickies" but there is so much valuable information, who at the end of the day can decide all of them which one worth and which don't ?
Always you can use the "report" option
I think that will be enough.
If you look on the badges you can find who to listen for example, it's always up to the person what decision will do, who will listen and who not. Have on mind and the Experts can make mistakes sometimes (please Experts, don't get annoyed)
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I like that, honestly to say, 3+ years ago, before I start with the reefing at all (after ages in the FW), I'm spending over 5 hrs per day in the forum, reading and reading, learning and ..... I have accounts in most of the "popular" forums, but probably since 2 years ago I stop looking them at all. In very rear cases I can find still good enough info to read, most of the good reefers are here, so I stick and love all what's hereI would be careful about making changes to the forum. Having participated in other forums, I have found R2R to be a model of civility and as a result is an enjoyable space in my day. People tend to share their experience rather than pronounce the TRUTH. Unless a change reduces a moderator's work load I would shy away from implementing it. Keep it simple.
But about the changes..., can agree with you, but everything is updating, improving, progressing and the R2R have to
Because of that I think Rev is opening threads like this ;Smug , to can improve and upgrade it with the this days tendencies .
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You do have the ability to 'dislike' anyone's comments without tagging it with a button. Just state why you disagree like you did with my comment
If you want this community to be loving instead of nice then why advocate for a dislike button?
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ok here is an Idea...
not exactly about the site but using R2R popularity and collective reefers to do group buys!
think about it how many reefers are part of R2R lets use the power to benefit us all.
every month ( or more) we could have a different group buy where R2R members get wholesale or below pricing. would be great for vendors looking to move inventory or market that new released "thingy mickjig"
could be everything from salt to food to gear.
I guess what I am saying I think we, as R2R and reefers should capitalize on the collective group and use that as buying power. could be a win win for everybody.
not exactly about the site but using R2R popularity and collective reefers to do group buys!
think about it how many reefers are part of R2R lets use the power to benefit us all.
every month ( or more) we could have a different group buy where R2R members get wholesale or below pricing. would be great for vendors looking to move inventory or market that new released "thingy mickjig"
could be everything from salt to food to gear.
I guess what I am saying I think we, as R2R and reefers should capitalize on the collective group and use that as buying power. could be a win win for everybody.
I voted "no". If it ain't broke, don't fix it. This is my go-to reefing forum. I only read one thread on that "other site", unless I come across something in a google search. My only complaint is the same for any technical forum. Outdated info, but it would be impossible to keep track of all that.
Sebastiancrab
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Yes, I will give this a try. A catalog would be even better because you could save items by topic.probably you mean that:
QUESTION OF THE DAY - How can we (R2R & YOU) help each other more in 2021? HELP ME, HELP YOU!
Another idea.....on another site I can drop a page or a reference into a "shoebox" so I don't have to search for it over the entire site again. It would be nice to save a particularly wise post in a "personal folder" for quick, easy reference later. on man i really like this. I have 3 R2R tabs...
Simply bookmark the threads or the posts you want to see again or to reread ?
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