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Ruh-oh... hope you hear back today before rolling into the weekend.I just wanted to update that it's been 2 days since the vendor said they'd refund me and I still haven't received it. Will ask again today
I can attest to both these wholesalers not carrying them, I would periodically (about once a week) drop by before corona and currently spend a lot of time on their websites. I have not seen these corals or any other dyed corals at either wholesaler.Nice work on the DIY home chromatography!
Anyone name the wholesaler yet? I will say that Quality Marine is *not* carrying these dyed garbage corals. Where are they coming from? I didnt spot them at SDC last time I looked either.
When a fraudulent product is being sold in the hobby, we should name names. Its likely there are only a small number of exporters shipping these and a small number of wholesalers selling them to LFS. Who are they?
I think I’m just going to wait a bit and see how successful these play out. If they are dyed, I wonder if new growth would show the original color.
Glad you were refunded!! And thank you for all of this work and investigation. It’s people like you that keep this hobby honest and truthful and therefor enjoyable. I hope vendors will read this thread as well and do their own questioning of their suppliersHi everyone, I got refunded! All but 2 of my frags have died. The two survivors are still pretty sick. I'm keeping them around for testing and ultimately trashing them.
A few hobbyists and I are working on getting some MS (mass spectrophotometry) analysis done on the blue sun coral pigment, and also publishing a report for all of the findings. Its also possible that authentic blue/teal sun coral exist, apparently they were collected from the Solomon Islands in the 90's but it became illegal in 2002. If these do exist, they are extremely rare, unlike the fake blue/green suns that are flooding our LFS today.
Anyone think it’s possibly just how the flesh is and kind of comes off? Anyone try this with the regular orange ones yet?I got two colonies of the blue and teal sun coral...As everyone has said the blue rubs off onto your fingers. When I first saw this I wondered the same thing about it being dyed...as I was handling the coral I also notice that scratched and chips made it turn white. Anyways that was three months ago. White chips and scratches now blue or teal again. Not as bright blue or teal as I first got it tho. Babies are even popping out.
Nice work on the DIY home chromatography!
Anyone name the wholesaler yet? I will say that Quality Marine is *not* carrying these dyed garbage corals. Where are they coming from? I didnt spot them at SDC last time I looked either.
When a fraudulent product is being sold in the hobby, we should name names. Its likely there are only a small number of exporters shipping these and a small number of wholesalers selling them to LFS. Who are they?
Y'all need to either look at the eye it and buy it sections or pay attention more.I can attest to both these wholesalers not carrying them, I would periodically (about once a week) drop by before corona and currently spend a lot of time on their websites. I have not seen these corals or any other dyed corals at either wholesaler.
Black sun corals are definitely real(at least branching black) and even Black/green ones that are so dark they’re almost black. I’ve even seen Black/red so dark it’s almost black. those are just variants of black sun corals, cause those still have black, but either the base, or the polyp nubs(I don’t remember which) are slightly lighter, and have a green or red tint. I’ve only seen them a few times from liveaquaria/divers den, so I believe they’re real. Partly cause I trust them 100%, but part cause the color was so slight, if someone was going to go to that much trouble, they’d probably make more of it colored, or more noticeably colored.Supporters of the blue sun coral are saying that black sun coral stain too. This is true, you can rub a black sun coral and it will come off.
But after doing this myself, it appears that black sun coral pigment is actually just concentrated yellow/ brown pigment.
I would think Specifically meth blue, and mal green would immediately kill the corals. Medications with the tiniest % of those chemicals with kill corals in days to as little as hours, so they definitely shouldn’t last weeks/months.Anyone on this thread have a buddy scientist that works in a chromatography lab? A spectral analysis of the bluish or greenish dye might indicate a cheap, easily obtainable dye such as methylene blue or malachite green compound. On the other hand, if the dye is a synthetic ink of some sort (there are many such inks) then a crime would be difficult and expensive to prove.
I’ve never had any color come off into my fingers from my orange/yellow one:/Anyone think it’s possibly just how the flesh is and kind of comes off? Anyone try this with the regular orange ones yet?