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After a hard learned lesson I’m hoping this thread not only helps me but hopefully helps anyone else who may end up in this situation or help others avoid making the same mistakes. Never think you can be the exception and that it won’t happen to you if you skip the proper and NECESSARY steps and procedures! Because that’s the big mistake we made.

So after adding new fish to our established tank without following a proper quarantine period thinking all would be fine we have learned our lesson. Ignorance or hard headed on our part. Brought a sick fish into our system without knowing and it quickly died (after appearing to be just fine and healthy when it arrived) and passed on a disease/s and/parasites to some of our other fish. Not fully sure what all we have contaminated our tank with, but ich is definitely involved now as well.

Have been doing a lot of reading and seeing a lot of different things and opinions.

Just finished setting up several 10 gallon tanks to quarantine and treat all of our fish.

Preparing for a dreaded fallow period.

Looking for advice from others who have been through this process as to what works best and things to avoid.

-freshwater dip or no?
-if so how? Just take them in the net and drop them? For how long?
-copper dip or another dip treatment?
-if so what would be the process from the start of removing them from the display, to the dip, to the quarantine tank?
-any treatments that should or should not be added to the quarantine water?
-temp on quarantine tank? Lower/raise/remain the same throughout the entire quarantine?
-salinity? Lower it? If so how low and what rate/time span should it be lowered?
-would snails/hermits/shrimp be fine remaining in the display or would they continue to house/hold any parasites/diseases?
-should any coral be removed during this fallow period as well or be treated?
-how long to fallow or how do I know if I need to continue the fallow period longer?
-should I be concerned about the substrate or live rock?
-any questions I haven’t asked that I should have asked?
-most common sicknesses and what to look for to spot it/them?

Hoping to rid the entire tank of any diseases/parasites/hitch hikers/bad bacteria…. Pretty much starting over. (Guess that’s what we get for thinking we could skip quarantines for both fish and coral instead of getting the proper set up for that before beginning to add things to our tank )

Hope this thread helps other hard headed reefers like myself

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After a hard learned lesson I’m hoping this thread not only helps me but hopefully helps anyone else who may end up in this situation or help others avoid making the same mistakes. Never think you can be the exception and that it won’t happen to you if you skip the proper and NECESSARY steps and procedures! Because that’s the big mistake we made.

So after adding new fish to our established tank without following a proper quarantine period thinking all would be fine we have learned our lesson. Ignorance or hard headed on our part. Brought a sick fish into our system without knowing and it quickly died (after appearing to be just fine and healthy when it arrived) and passed on a disease/s and/parasites to some of our other fish. Not fully sure what all we have contaminated our tank with, but ich is definitely involved now as well.

Have been doing a lot of reading and seeing a lot of different things and opinions.

Just finished setting up several 10 gallon tanks to quarantine and treat all of our fish.

Preparing for a dreaded fallow period.

Looking for advice from others who have been through this process as to what works best and things to avoid.

-freshwater dip or no?
-if so how? Just take them in the net and drop them? For how long?
-copper dip or another dip treatment?
-if so what would be the process from the start of removing them from the display, to the dip, to the quarantine tank?
-any treatments that should or should not be added to the quarantine water?
-temp on quarantine tank? Lower/raise/remain the same throughout the entire quarantine?
-salinity? Lower it? If so how low and what rate/time span should it be lowered?
-would snails/hermits/shrimp be fine remaining in the display or would they continue to house/hold any parasites/diseases?
-should any coral be removed during this fallow period as well or be treated?
-how long to fallow or how do I know if I need to continue the fallow period longer?
-should I be concerned about the substrate or live rock?
-any questions I haven’t asked that I should have asked?
-most common sicknesses and what to look for to spot it/them?

Hoping to rid the entire tank of any diseases/parasites/hitch hikers/bad bacteria…. Pretty much starting over. (Guess that’s what we get for thinking we could skip quarantines for both fish and coral instead of getting the proper set up for that before beginning to add things to our tank )

Hope this thread helps other hard headed reefers like myself

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Sorry to hear and it depends where you get your livestock to begin with. Develop a list of trusted sources/Lfs
When purchasing at an LFS, do the following:
- Observe fish for imperfection, bruises and disease
- Avoid fish that are thin that are likely not eating well
- Ask to see fish eat
- Make sure eyes are clear
- Assure fish is breathing normal
- Observe how fish are getting along with others in the tank
- if fish are hard to catch- thats good. A wek/sick fish will fall right into the net

-freshwater dip or no? Not necessary - but useful with flukes and Brook w/ clowns when condition arises
-if so how? Just take them in the net and drop them? For how long? 5 mins in tap water same temp as display tank
-copper dip or another dip treatment? Copper is a treatment not a dip. Ruby Rally pro is good
-if so what would be the process from the start of removing them from the display, to the dip, to the quarantine tank?
-any treatments that should or should not be added to the quarantine water?
-temp on quarantine tank? Lower/raise/remain the same throughout the entire quarantine? temp 77-79
-salinity? Lower it? If so how low and what rate/time span should it be lowered? Hyposalinity is a method for ich. Coppersafe most effective
-would snails/hermits/shrimp be fine remaining in the display or would they continue to house/hold any parasites/diseases? They should be fine during fishless/fallow period which is 6-8 weeks. Parasites need fish for hosts
-should any coral be removed during this fallow period as well or be treated?- No
-how long to fallow or how do I know if I need to continue the fallow period longer? 6-8 weeks sufficient. Life cycle of protozoans 4-6 weeks or less
-should I be concerned about the substrate or live rock? - No but maintain good water quality and diet for prevention of disease
-any questions I haven’t asked that I should have asked?
-most common sicknesses and what to look for to spot it/them?
 

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If you haven't already, I suggest you read the posts by Jay Hemdal which are stickies at the top of this forum. Jay has written these posts over the past two or three years which address almost all of the topics you listed on your post.
 
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If you haven't already, I suggest you read the posts by Jay Hemdal which are stickies at the top of this forum. Jay has written these posts over the past two or three years which address almost all of the topics you listed on your post.
I have not but I will get on that now. Thank you
 

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I don't see any overt signs of ich in the pictures or video - ich may well be present, but it is subclinical right now. I'd say that something else killed your fish.

Just tossing this out there - you don't seem to have a lot of invertebrates. Have you considered moving the inverts to the smaller tanks and running hyposalinity and praziquantel on your display with the fish in it? Less stressful to the fish. That method won't work for velvet, but I don't see any indication of that here.

Jay
 
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