I am pretty new but saw this tank that someone was selling, is it a good deal?

[Exotrezy]

You need enough to cover the rock if possible. The fish and rock can stay in a tub for awhile while you mix and make more water.

It takes a long time to make water and get it up to temp. That’s why you want as much as you can ready to go.

How long would it take for the rock to have die off? I could place the corals and rock into my main tank right now. Fish wouldn’t work as it’s only a 30 gallon 3ft.

 

[Exotrezy]

You need enough to cover the rock if possible. The fish and rock can stay in a tub for awhile while you mix and make more water.

It takes a long time to make water and get it up to temp. That’s why you want as much as you can ready to go.

I can make 32 or 64 gallons of water before I go there and have it mixing salt while I go pick up the tank which would be able 2 hour and 30 minutes to 3 hours.

 

[Exotrezy]

You need enough to cover the rock if possible. The fish and rock can stay in a tub for awhile while you mix and make more water.

It takes a long time to make water and get it up to temp. That’s why you want as much as you can ready to go.

I can have water being made earlier like 1-2 days before as my RO can make 200GPD and then I have a brs DI hooked up to it. The DI might slow it down a little.

 

[Exotrezy]

Smoking deal! If you are afraid of problems you can always gut it and start fresh.

I could but I wouldn’t really have time since it comes with fish.

 

[Exotrezy]

You need enough to cover the rock if possible. The fish and rock can stay in a tub for awhile while you mix and make more water.

It takes a long time to make water and get it up to temp. That’s why you want as much as you can ready to go.

Any chance a LFS will be able to hold the fish for me? I can keep the fish in a bucket with a heater and aerator but how long would they be able to be in there? Wouldn’t the ammonia be bad?

 

[Exotrezy]

I don’t think you can put the fish in the tank until it’s completely full, heated and the filtering through the sump. I would plan on keeping the fish in smaller heated tank/tote/container until you get the new tank filled with water and sand at least. I would also try to get all the live rock in there before the fish incase the die off from the rocks causes any temporary ammonia spikes.

Why can’t i put them in there when it’s half full? I would be making the rest of the water right after but it would take another 5 hours after most likely. The water would be heated when it would be mixed. Now I don’t know about the filtering through the sump as I am not sure if they can be fine without the sump for a couple hours. I can hook up some sponge filters but won’t have an actual filter until the sump kicks on. Wouldn’t it be worse if they are in the bucket instead of the tank cause the tank would atleast have some room while I finish hooking up the sump and filling the tank?

 

[Tamberav]

Any chance a LFS will be able to hold the fish for me? I can keep the fish in a bucket with a heater and aerator but how long would they be able to be in there? Wouldn’t the ammonia be bad?

LFS will give them disease.

How long they can stay depends on water volume vs fish waste. You can put some of the rock in there with them.

 

[Tamberav]

They can go in half full with flow and rock and a heater. My tank was this way for a long time before I brought the sump online.

 

[joby619]

Why can’t i put them in there when it’s half full? I would be making the rest of the water right after but it would take another 5 hours after most likely. The water would be heated when it would be mixed. Now I don’t know about the filtering through the sump as I am not sure if they can be fine without the sump for a couple hours. I can hook up some sponge filters but won’t have an actual filter until the sump kicks on. Wouldn’t it be worse if they are in the bucket instead of the tank cause the tank would atleast have some room while I finish hooking up the sump and filling the tank?

Well the water being heated before it goes in the tank will help for sure because I originally thought you did not have heaters in your mixing container. I still think putting fish in while getting the tank ready is not a good idea. I believe you might have an initial ammonia spike from the rock being transported, cooled off, and then shocked with brand new saltwater. In addition, there will probably be a lot of stuff floating in the water without any filtration. Then when you dump another 60 gallons in the next day, you will be stirring up the sand and knocking more debris off the live rock. Then when your main pumps turning on, it could also put more junk in the water column that your stressed out fish will be breathing in.

IMHO, the tank should be set up, heated and filtered before putting the fish.

Looks like you have about 4 fish. If you are worried about space, maybe do 2 fish per bucket or check with your LFS to see if they can hold them for a day or so.

 

[Tamberav]

I looked back and my fish went in August and my Sump got hooked up Oct 26th.

The rock was all the filtration for the fish that is needed but skimmers/sumps hide equiptment and make for smaller/easier water changes.

 

[Tamberav]

Well the water being heated before it goes in the tank will help for sure because I originally thought you did not have heaters in your mixing container. I still think putting fish in while getting the tank ready is not a good idea. I believe you might have an initial ammonia spike from the rock being transported, cooled off, and then shocked with brand new saltwater. In addition, there will probably be a lot of stuff floating in the water without any filtration. Then when you dump another 60 gallons in the next day, you will be stirring up the sand and knocking more debris off the live rock. Then when your main pumps turning on, it could also put more junk in the water column that your stressed out fish will be breathing in.

IMHO, the tank should be set up, heated and filtered before putting the fish.

Looks like you have about 4 fish. If you are worried about space, maybe do 2 fish per bucket or check with your LFS to see if they can hold them for a day or so.

This is valid, you do need to clean the debris off the rocks well. Which means you need extra saltwater water to swish them around in or blast them with a powerhead/maxijet in a bucket of water. It really depends how dirty they are.

people move tanks/states often and move everything so it's not that much different then moving tbh... but you can mess it all up

I would not give fish to LFS though. My silly friend did that and they gave them velvet.

You really should have some giant brute cans for such a big tank.

 

[Exotrezy]

LFS will give them disease.

How long they can stay depends on water volume vs fish waste. You can put some of the rock in there with them.

I can put a sponge filter in the bucket, would that work? water would be maybe half a 5 gallon bucket but i can add more once I would get back home

 

[Exotrezy]

They can go in half full with flow and rock and a heater. My tank was this way for a long time before I brought the sump online.

Ok

 

[Exotrezy]

They can go in half full with flow and rock and a heater. My tank was this way for a long time before I brought the sump online.

I will most likely do that and throw a sponge filter in aswell

 

[Tamberav]

Seachem ammonia alert badge is nice to have for peice of mind to put in the tank

 

[Exotrezy]

Well the water being heated before it goes in the tank will help for sure because I originally thought you did not have heaters in your mixing container. I still think putting fish in while getting the tank ready is not a good idea. I believe you might have an initial ammonia spike from the rock being transported, cooled off, and then shocked with brand new saltwater. In addition, there will probably be a lot of stuff floating in the water without any filtration. Then when you dump another 60 gallons in the next day, you will be stirring up the sand and knocking more debris off the live rock. Then when your main pumps turning on, it could also put more junk in the water column that your stressed out fish will be breathing in.

IMHO, the tank should be set up, heated and filtered before putting the fish.

Looks like you have about 4 fish. If you are worried about space, maybe do 2 fish per bucket or check with your LFS to see if they can hold them for a day or so.

Well I don’t even have a mixing container but I found someone selling some and can go get them and put heaters in them

 

[Exotrezy]

This is valid, you do need to clean the debris off the rocks well. Which means you need extra saltwater water to swish them around in or blast them with a powerhead/maxijet in a bucket of water. It really depends how dirty they are.

people move tanks/states often and move everything so it's not that much different then moving tbh... but you can mess it all up

I would not give fish to LFS though. My silly friend did that and they gave them velvet.

You really should have some giant brute cans for such a big tank.

I will get a 5 gallon bucket ready for debris and cleaning

 

[joby619]

Are u going to use sand? Do you remember how cloudy your tank was when you first put the sand in? I’m thinking a 20 gal brute trash can with live rock, fish, heater and air pump would be good for at least a day to get the main tank settled.

Also, it takes hours to heat up 100 gallons.

 

[Tamberav]

Ya you can also put the fish in a bin of some sort with water/rock/flow. Mine lived in a 30g plastic heavy duty bin for 2 months (after moving states) until my tank was delivered.

Keep your options open. It may take awhile do everything and it may turn into a multiple day project.

 

[Tamberav]

Are u going to use sand? Do you remember how cloudy your tank was when you first put the sand in? I’m thinking a 20 gal brute trash can with live rock, fish, heater and air pump would be good for at least a day to get the main tank settled.

Also, it takes hours to heat up 100 gallons.

They said they were ditching the sand.