I think I have the dreaded Dinos

[dwest]

Any help with the specific type?? It looks like both diatoms and Dino’s

I see diatoms not dinos

 

[Koh23]

Another quick question.....

I just realized that during next week i will get diamond goby....

As he constantly stiffs trough sand, will dinos, diatoms, cyano, or whatewer it is be harmfull to him?

 

[bvanfish]

Just read your op again, your tank is only 3 month old, new sandbed I assume. Very likely only a diatom bloom due to high silica. I would get your phosphates of 0 anyways. Don't rush into changing to many things, stability is the key.

@Kmst80 ya 3 months. I had a diatom bloom during the first few weeks. This just seemed different. I decreased photo period to 8 hours. I am slowly going to increase phosphate and nitrate. See how things look and go from there.

Yes the conch and snails eat it which I’m hoping is good and not poisoning them.

 

[bvanfish]

I see diatoms not dinos

@dwest i like the sound of that!

 

[Reefahholic]

@reefaholic @Kmst80 Any other input? I want to form a plan if the consensus is dinos

You definitely got some diatoms in there which is great, but I do see some darker brown guys that look like maybe some Dino’s. We’ll need better images and you need to zoom past the Diatoms to bring the possible Dino’s into focus. Maybe it’s not anything, but it’s good to be sure. Really hard to tell. We need more images.

 

[bvanfish]

I will try to get a better pic. That was the best the LFS microscope could do. I’ll see if I can find another one to try

 

[Reefahholic]

I will try to get a better pic. That was the best the LFS microscope could do. I’ll see if I can find another one to try

This one is great for ID

 

[bvanfish]

Here are some pictures with the whites on.

my tank looks so much less cool with white only haha

 

[piranhaman00]

All Dino’s respond to UV and there is no reason to fret

 

[bvanfish]

All Dino’s respond to UV and there is no reason to fret

I have heard conflicting info on if UV works for all types. But I am still trying to get a definitive answer on dinos or diatoms. I have had many mixed reviews. I am doing a test https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/h...agellates you'll,water should be rather clear. located there to see if they are dinos once and for all.

 

[BetterJake]

All Dino’s respond to UV and there is no reason to fret

UV has no impact on Large cell amphidinium dinos, those do not swim.

 

[bvanfish]

It’s gotta be Dinos. Got the strings in the sand with bubbles on top now. Dang it!

 

[bvanfish]

It for sure goes away and comes back in the day. I’m going to run uv and carbon. Is this enough / too much carbon? I have never ran it before.

 

[BetterJake]

That's good that it goes away at night, the type that goes swimming is easier to kill with UV.

Hard to say if that's too much or too little carbon. The carbon I use has specific instructions on the bottle for how much to use for my tank water volume

 

[bvanfish]

That's good that it goes away at night, the type that goes swimming is easier to kill with UV.

Hard to say if that's too much or too little carbon. The carbon I use has specific instructions on the bottle for how much to use for my tank water volume

@BetterJake Ya this just came with the waterbox 25 haha. I just ordered a uv kit for aio's. When i was doing a look through my tank I also found this hitchhiker. Any idea if good or bad? it looks aiptasia ish to me

 

[_Jake_Simek_]

Get a cheap microscope and make sure you know what you got in your tank. You can fin pictures of different types of dinos on google, same as cyano or diatoms.
Read this too and if you find you got dinos follow it where ever you can.

Dinoflagellates – Are You Tired Of Battling Altogether?

I don't know what percentage of folks had luck battling dinos with any of the methods in the old Dino thread but it's obviously a very low percentage, so I'd like refresh folks on the natural alternatives and lay out three areas of info: some of the factors that contribute to a dino outbreak...

www.reef2reef.com

I am fighting dinos for the last 4 weeks and i am slowly winning, only after i found out what i had with the help of a microscope i got onto the right path.

I second this, a microscope is the only way to start the road to success. Find out what Dinos you have, and start planning your attacks with that information. The only way I was able to beat my procentrum Dinos was an oversized uv, daily scrubbing of the rocks, manual removal, copepods, feeding photo nightly, keeping nutrients at slightly elevated levels, the addition of a refugium, mB7, and a 4 day blackout. They were gone in two weeks. Its best to start working towards it early. With Dinos, the "wait it out method" never seems to work. Dino-x never worked for me. I try to stay away from chemical treatments as much as possible, they seem to have short term effects, fixing the root of the issue and natural treatment is the best in my humble opinion.

I have attached a pdf from the Dino thread that really helps with id and on these pesky things.
I wish you all the best!

 

[_Jake_Simek_]

@Kmst80 do they look dino ish? that was the highest magnification I could get at the LFS. I am debating if I do my normal water change today. (if it is dinos I wont change the water)

I got nitrate and phosphate to dose and get them to 10 nitrate and .1 phos
Then I was thinking of doing pods and phyto next

I think you for sure have both. But more magnification is needed to be certain.

 

[_Jake_Simek_]

I will try to get a better pic. That was the best the LFS microscope could do. I’ll see if I can find another one to try

Walmart sells a cheap discovery kids one that worked great for me

Robot or human?

 

[bvanfish]

@_Jake_Simek_ I am going to go back and try to get better pictures of it.

I see them mainly in the sand, but i may see strings on some parts of low rock. In my original picture i do not see the beaks, but do see more off set points on the dinos. I will try to get more pics and videos to see. Thank you for the pdf super helpful!

 

[_Jake_Simek_]

UV has no impact on Large cell amphidinium dinos, those do not swim.

the only way to make a uv effective for that type is a blackout. The idea is that sometimes they will go into the water column in search for light.