Ich

Dmb092182 · Feb 20, 2018

So I have a 150 gallon setup at my school. Which 2 of the fish went through tank transfer and the other 2 fish did not. I plan to treat all fish and allow tank to go fallow. I will utilize tank transfer for fish that are not showing signs and than use coppersafe on yellow eye and blue tang that have ich. After treatment I will place all fish into 55 gallon until tank is fallow. I have never used coppersafe but would like to know how to add slowly. I have used ionic copper before and it has not went well so I thought coppersafe might be better for this round. I feel the ich came from the yellow eye because he showed signs of ich but never showed spots so I treated and watched him and he looked healthy but never used copper. I should have. I just want fish to be healthy. Thanks

HotRocks · Feb 20, 2018

As long as you are dealing with Ich, and not velvet, I would say you would hear most people state that they take 5 days or so to ramp up copper. I wont elaborate on my recent dealings with coppersafe, because we will be here all night. I would recommend testing regularly (Daily) as you are dosing, and spend some time reading around the forums about proper dosage. I have had what I believe to be some inconsistency in the product lately.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/proper-dosing-of-coppersafe.309726/

Dmb092182 · Feb 20, 2018

HotRockTarBaby said:
As long as you are dealing with Ich, and not velvet, I would say you would hear most people state that they take 5 days or so to ramp up copper. I wont elaborate on my recent dealings with coppersafe, because we will be here all night. I would recommend testing regularly (Daily) as you are dosing, and spend some time reading around the forums about proper dosage. I have had what I believe to be some inconsistency in the product lately.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/proper-dosing-of-coppersafe.309726/

So what is the proper dose? I worried about using this now. So do you you use their dosage?

Humblefish · Feb 20, 2018

Dmb092182 said:
So what is the proper dose? I worried about using this now. So do you you use their dosage?

Assuming you don’t have anything like rocks or sand absorbing the medication, dosing 2mL/gal puts you right where you need to be. Just remember to spread out that dosage over 4-5 days, as mentioned above.

Therapeutic range for Coppersafe is 1.5 - 2.0 ppm.

Dmb092182 · Feb 20, 2018

Humblefish said:
Assuming you don’t have anything like rocks or sand absorbing the medication, dosing 2mL/gal puts you right where you need to be. Just remember to spread out that dosage over 4-5 days, as mentioned above.

Therapeutic range for Coppersafe is 1.5 - 2.0 ppm.

Thanks for helping me. How many days should I run the coppersafe.

HotRocks · Feb 20, 2018

Dmb092182 said:
Thanks for helping me. How many days should I run the coppersafe.

Once you reach the therapudic level. 30 days. Then remove copper with large water changes and carbon. Then typically observe for 2 weeks post copper to make sure fish are indeed parasite free.

Humblefish · Feb 20, 2018

HotRockTarBaby said:
Once you reach the therapudic level. 30 days. Then remove copper with large water changes and carbon. Then typically observe for 2 weeks post copper to make sure fish are indeed parasite free.

+1

Dmb092182 · Feb 20, 2018

Thank you for the support! I know I can get this done. Question? With tank transfer will that Rid Ich if it is in there gills?

Humblefish · Feb 20, 2018

Dmb092182 said:
With tank transfer will that Rid Ich if it is in there gills?

Yes; however TTM does not treat Marine Velvet Disease: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/

Big G · Feb 20, 2018

Dmb092182 said:
Thank you for the support! I know I can get this done. Question? With tank transfer will that Rid Ich if it is in there gills?

Yes. The parasites will drop off the fish into the tank you will be transferring the fish out of before the parasite can complete a new cycle and re-attack your fish. Here's Humblefish's advisory on TTM: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tank-transfer-method.192655/

Dmb092182 · Feb 20, 2018

Big G said:
Yes. The parasites will drop off the fish into the tank you will be transferring the fish out of before the parasite can complete a new cycle and re-attack your fish. Here's Humblefish's advisory on TTM: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tank-transfer-method.192655/

If I leave this fish in qt for the whole fallow period would velvet show up by then if it was going to show up

Humblefish · Feb 20, 2018

Dmb092182 said:
If I leave this fish in qt for the whole fallow period would velvet show up by then if it was going to show up

Yes

Dmb092182 · Feb 23, 2018

I have a yellow eye Kole tang in qt. And will do tank transfer for all other fish. I have a 45 gallon to place my yellow tang, salfin, baby blue hippo tang and 2 clownfish. I have not set up the 45 gallon yet. What is the safest to get cycled to start process . I wanted to do this weekend but I am afraid to use display water for 45 gallon because of the ich but I almost feel that I could use tank water to limit a cycle and than just run copper for a bit to make sure I kill the free swimming ich. What is your all’s recommendation

HotRocks · Feb 24, 2018

Do you have any media in DT sump? You could cut a portion of it off and put in hob filter or in QT tank. This would get you a seeded QT. But same problem as far as cross contamination. If your going to dose copper anyway it's a non issue.

Dmb092182 · Feb 24, 2018

HotRockTarBaby said:
Do you have any media in DT sump? You could cut a portion of it off and put in hob filter or in QT tank. This would get you a seeded QT. But same problem as far as cross contamination. If your going to dose copper anyway it's a non issue.[/QUOTEi I do have bio balls and some live rock in sump but I think I will just leave it in the main tank. I ordered some biosphere to get it cycled. I have sometime because of tank transferring some fish so I will just set up tank and get it ready and I think it would be ready in 2 weeks after transfer and just monitor with Seachem alert badge.