Is this a parasite or normal?

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    Hi, the pics make in look much worse due to the lighting but I’m not sure what’s the deal with the anthias

    Any ideas. He eats fine and appears to do his Normal routine of swimming around and hanging out on rocks. I’ve had him since December 26th



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    Looking at what appears to be whitish bumps atop the fish, especially just at the back of his head?

    (can be hard to tell under heavy blues.)

    Has he been treated for flukes? Do you have a QT protocol in place?

    Melypr1985 created a beautiful video on how to perform a freshwater dip to determine whether flukes are present: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/video-how-to-do-a-freshwater-dip.286639/#post-3487082

    If flukes are confirmed, Prazi-Pro is generally the medication of choice, and should be dosed twice, five to seven days apart.

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    Thanks Bruce. Has not been treated for flukes. The pic makes them look like bumps but in person is more of a slight discoloration and they aren’t raised. I can’t really even see it in most lighting.
     
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    ^ that description makes me more inclined to think flukes.
     
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    The eyes look cloudy, too. Is that an accurate observation?

    To me it looks like velvet, it could easily be more than one ailment. :/
     
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    Thanks. I’m going to treat with prazi pro and report back.
     
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    So I treated with prazi pro and I could literally see the flukes falling off the fish. It was crazy. I saw at least 15 or more. The majority came out of the jaw area and I saw one come out near the eye.
    The fish looks pretty beat up now that they have come off but seems to be swimming around more now.
     
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    Good deal!

    You'll want to hit them again in 5-7 days, so that any unhatched eggs (which will have hatched by then, but not quite yet have started to lay their own eggs) also get taken out. While you're at it, do keep an eye open for any symptoms that might indicate flukes weren't the only thing going on.

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    Hopefully it was just flukes! Glad the fish appears to be doing better!
     
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    Got home from work and saw flukes still all over fish. They are different flukes and more noticeable. Now on fins and different parts of the body. One is hanging of the eye. Not exactly sure why the med stopped working.... and now the flukes are able to still hang on.....
     
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    So I caught him and did a fresh water dip. Results ....
     
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    I've heard tell of Praziquantel resistant flukes - another thing to be aware of is that the "biofilm" in a display, which consists of algaes, bacteria and a host of microorganisms, can break down some medications. I believe Praziquantel (Prazi-Pro) is included in that list.

    I don't think too many are resistant to RO/DI, so maybe another dose and another dip in a short week or so?

    Might have to consider the same treatment for other fish in the same tank.

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    Ok so I’m probably going to get flamed for this but I got rid of the anthias. It’s looked really bad today, cloudy eyes a couple more flukes and a shredded fin. On top of it my tang tore him him up overnight with his barb.

    All my other fish seem super healthy and I’ve had them for a while so I had to think of them.

    I’m still going to dose the tank for 3 to 4 cycles. To make sure all the flukes are gone. I’ve learned my lesson and will be purchasing a Q tank.
     
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    Also his quick demise makes me think ich as well. The last time I took him out I dipped him again just to see what parasites came out. As with the first time , obvious flukes but there were also the ting pin head sized white things which i assumed were smaller flukes coming out of the gills. If you look close at the above pic of just the bowl you can see them.

    Baby flukes or ich?
     
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