Killing snails by killing Cyano.

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Ok so I need to move to the next level in the war on Cyano.
I am undecided between a few products and looking for a solution.

I will say this tank is 9 months old. That said half of the rock is almost 3 years old now.
Started original tank February 2018, that tank sprung a leak June 2018 transferred to temp tank with no sump. Ran this way until February of 2020 when the new system was setup and transferred everything.
140g 6x2x2 peninsula with a 150g sump for a 235 gallon total water volume.
Full Triton method.
130-40 lbs rock
80lbs crushed coral bed.
ATS growing well lighting opposite DT
XR15 Radions 100% Blues 8% whites 0 red 0 green 0 violet 12 hrs daily.
One Maxspect Gyre XF350 random mode set at 50-100%
Return pump flow at 1200gph.

My average daily parameters the past month.
Alk 8.0-8.3
Ca 350-360
Mg 1225
Ph 8.0-8.3
Hanna Phosphorus ULR averages 22ppb equaling a Phosphate of 0.067ppm
Nitrate runs 5-10 with an API kit (I know I know, no need to hound me.)
I have a 5inch 90w Lifeguard UV running with an average flow rate of 1900GPH.

Two feedings every day with premixed by hand.
LRS Herbivore, PM Mises, Brine shrimp, Selcon, and Kent Garlic.
Spot feed weekly with Reef Roids for the LPS, and either scallops or table shrimp to my BTA and Elegance.

My concern is my snails.
I do not want to starve and kill them off.
I know to most they are insignificant creatures and if they die they die.
Well I am not like that and that's wrong, if you ask me.
My original 9 Trochus snails I have raised from 1/2 inch to 2 inches in diameter.
As big as they are most people are shocked at the size.

So I am researching if anyone here has experienced a loss of snails due to starvation after the product did its job.

So I am looking at in no particular order.
Brightwell Microbacter7.
Brightwell Clean
Dr. Tims Re-fresh followed by Waste-away.
KZ Cyano clean and Coral snow plus.

I think but am not 100% sure that Vibrant may have caused the outbreak so that's off the table.

I am looking for a cure not instant results.
I have Chemiclean on my shelf as a LAST resort.

So any thoughts?
 

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Snails don't eat cyano, so I'm not sure why you are concerned you will kill the snails by eradicating cyano.
Unless you mean making your nutrients so low that no algae will grow, which is not a good idea for a variety of reasons.

I seem to use chemiclean about once a year and I find it to be fantastic- I have all kinds of sps and softies and nothing seems bothered by it.
 
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Snails don't eat cyano, so I'm not sure why you are concerned you will kill the snails by eradicating cyano.
Unless you mean making your nutrients so low that no algae will grow, which is not a good idea for a variety of reasons.

I seem to use chemiclean about once a year and I find it to be fantastic- I have all kinds of sps and softies and nothing seems bothered by it.

I agree that snails dont eat cyano.
My concern is that the additives will also kill the algae they do eat. I dont know of a cure that will target just one thing.
 
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Personally I used Microbacter Clean to great effect on my Cyano on my new build. I've used chemiclean before but prefer the approach of using natural bacteria to fight bacteria and it seems to have done it's job.
 

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I agree that snails dont eat cyano.
My concern is that the additives will also kill the algae they do eat. I dont know of a cure that will target just one thing.
I've never lost snails after using chemiclean. And I have huuuge turbos.
 
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Personally I used Microbacter Clean to great effect on my Cyano on my new build. I've used chemiclean before but prefer the approach of using natural bacteria to fight bacteria and it seems to have done it's job.

To my question. Did you kill other algae's and starve your snails with its use?
 

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To my question. Did you kill other algae's and starve your snails with its use?

No other algae within the aquarium to test on unfortunately but given it's bacteria, I don’t see it effecting algae atall.... No issues with snails in either use, chemiclean or Microbacter Clean.
 
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No other algae within the aquarium to test on unfortunately but given it's bacteria, I don’t see it effecting algae atall.... No issues with snails in either use, chemiclean or Microbacter Clean.

Yes true I guess I am overthinking and thinking incorrectly.
Yea Cyano is bacteria not algae.
 

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