Kole tang deteriorating

[Mr Mumblez]

Can someone help my sexy tang? Water is great! Zero ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, phos, silicates, 440 calcium, not sure magnesium but waiting on test kit. Temp 79-80 salinity 1.026. Parameters steady. Her poops are long and stringy lately, she eats meaty foods but can’t get her to eat her veggies. She picks at rocks and glass all day but in this last week or two she has been farting around little more and her fins looks like they are starting to deteriorate like burning the edge of a sheet of paper. Her color isn’t awesome like it was last week. What can I treat her with? PLEASE HELP HER SHE NEEDS LOVE! Thx all in advance.

 

[MetaKnight101]

Can someone help my sexy tang? Water is great! Zero ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, phos, silicates, 440 calcium, not sure magnesium but waiting on test kit. Temp 79-80 salinity 1.026. Parameters steady. Her poops are long and stringy lately, she eats meaty foods but can’t get her to eat her veggies. She picks at rocks and glass all day but in this last week or two she has been farting around little more and her fins looks like they are starting to deteriorate like burning the edge of a sheet of paper. Her color isn’t awesome like it was last week. What can I treat her with? PLEASE HELP HER SHE NEEDS LOVE! Thx all in advance.

It looks like HLLE to me. Here's a link to an old page on HLLE and what you can do about it. If you see Stringy White poop then it most likely also has internal parasites. You can do a freshwater dip to confirm this.

HLLE (Head & Lateral Line Erosion)

Head & Lateral Line Erosion "HLLE": Symptoms - HLLE literally looks as though the skin is rotting or peeling off the fish. Affected areas usually include the face and lateral line, and may be white in color. Treatment options - This is more of a condition than an actual disease. Since no one...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[Dj City]

She has internal parasites.

Treat with prazipro.

Also might be hlle in addition to parasites

 

[SliceGolfer]

This is hlle on a Kole Tang, which looks very similar to your situation

Kole Tang with HLLE -- Lesson learned

Two weeks ago I set up my first quarantine tank. Up until then, I had just added fish and corals directly into my display tank since it was brand new and I had little to lose if something went wrong. But I wanted to add a Kole Tang to help tackle my macro algae problems, so I figured I would...

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[Mr Mumblez]

The stringy poop was kinda telling me internal parasites too. So I have a GSP and Xenia and hermits and cleaner shrimp. Can they all be treated with prazi? Will it kill my biological filtration?

 

[Dj City]

It's better to pull the fish and treat in a hospital tank but you can treat with prazipro in the display of absolutely needed.

 

[Mr Mumblez]

I don’t have a QT tank but will be setting one up next weekend to use from now on. I added a dragon goby and a red fin wrasse like 10 days ago and tang started going downhill a few days after adding them. At first I thought stress Mabye but it’s got to be more.

 

[Thaxxx]

@Jay Hemdal

 

[Gordon42]

I had that happen to a yellow tang of mine. Looked like it was disintegrating in the tank. Almost all the fins were completing rotting away. It eventually moved on but I never did find the corpse after tearing the rock work apart.

 

[vetteguy53081]

You posted this on another forum. Please keep it to disease forum. I answered other post but here you go again:

Its hole-In-The-Head Disease, also known as Head and Lateral Line Erosion (HLLE( common in tangs and other saltwater fish. As the name states, this disease affects the lateral line organ and skin covering the head and face of the fish. There is no specific cause but generally attributed to poor diet, use of carbon heavily, water conditions and even stress. My suspicion here is diet.
Feed at minimum:

Spiriulina brine shrimp
LRS herbivore diet
Nori seaweed basted with garlic extract
Mysis shrimp
small plankton
Formula 2 Frozen and flakes

Add garlic to food 2-3x per week and selcon vitamin to food 2X per week on other days

 

[Mr Mumblez]

Sry I’m still having a little bit of a hard time navigating this forum. I am also a little panicky too

 

[Jay Hemdal]

While visually, the fish does have HLLE, the stringy feces indicate a second problem as well. It is fairly common to have fish with multiple issues at the same time. Here is a link to my HLLE article:

https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/head-and-lateral-line-erosion-hlle.784/

For the stringy feces, it may just be because the fish isn't eating its veggies. Have you tried dried algae from Two Little Fishies or similar? You could also try blanching some Bok Choy cabbage and attaching it to a rock. If you think it is internal parasites, here is a link to my article on medicated foods:

Proper Dosing of Medicated Foods

This article offers information about developing medicated foods for aquarium fish

www.reef2reef.com

Jay

 

[Tamberav]

Adding garlic to nori has been successful for me to get them to eat their veggies. Once they start chowing, I no longer need to add the garlic.

 

[Pillahump]

do you run carbon ? my fish had beginning signs of HLLE and after removal went away slowly

 

[Mr Mumblez]

Thank you to all that gave advice! Snappy the kole tang is doing great! She has her fins all back and her face is starting to get better.
What I did after reading all the advice given.
1)stopped carbon reactor
2)used selcon in every meal
3)soaked veggie sheets with selcon and fed everyday
4) 2 rounds prazipro since I don’t have stock it would bother
5) 25% WC 2 x 7 days apart after each prazipro round making sure to do gravel well
6) added few more food choices (6 different frozen kinds, 2 pellet, 3 veggie sheet types)
That’s about it. I added skunk shrimp last week but he doesn’t seem to have a cleaning station set up yet, fish don’t even look his way really. He sits on a wave pump half way up the tank upside down all day. He cruises the rocks all night. Cool guy we named Tyler. Lol.

you all are a great help to so many of us so I just wanted to shout back a minute so you knew you were appreciated! Woot woot!

 

[Mr Mumblez]

Update on kole tang! She is doing great! Your advice has been crucial to her health! I started adding selcon to frozen foods before feeding and wrapped seaweed around rocks and pvc tubes and she started eating it. Thank you all for your advice!

 

[Spare time]

The stringy poop was kinda telling me internal parasites too. So I have a GSP and Xenia and hermits and cleaner shrimp. Can they all be treated with prazi? Will it kill my biological filtration?

Prazi is fine in a display tank. I have dosed it even with feather dusters which it says may be affected and they weren't

 

[Mr Mumblez]

Prazi is fine in a display tank. I have dosed it even with feather dusters which it says may be affected and they weren't

If you read the thread from start I had a few issues. It was never any parasites just bad nutrition and activated carbon dust. I had uh ph moment. Lol she is healthy now. Her hole in the head has pretty much completely healed.

 

[Spare time]

If you read the thread from start I had a few issues. It was never any parasites just bad nutrition and activated carbon dust. I had uh ph moment. Lol she is healthy now. Her hole in the head has pretty much completely healed.

How long did it take your fish to heal out of curiosity?

 

[Mr Mumblez]

How long did it take your fish to heal out of curiosity?

Ah keeping a journal is awesome! I’m glad I started doing this. I had to go back and look. Lol. Started adding selcon and seaweed to diet on 11/6ish so Mabye two months to mostly heal. Tang still has slight scars on both sides but almost gone