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Hey guys, so I got another Kole Tang, here is a thread when I first got him, been in QT for 8-9 days now (got him newyears eve actually).
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/new-kole-tang-is-he-breathing-heavy-video.281356/
He's been eating in QT, he's definitely eating Nori, about a 2" square sheet every other day. And he's nibbling at veggie flakes, etc occasionally. I put some chaeto in the qt from my sump as well, and he doesn't appear to be eating that (that I've seen).
Anyway, he's active, and seems happy, he was very skittish when I got him (normal) but now is much less so, he'll come out and watch me through the glass etc...
But yesterday/today I noticed a small patch of discoloration on his right side, just behind his right eye. My Wife is pretty sure it's been there since day one, but I'm not 100% sure...
Either way, the last Kole we bought (same time as our Foxface which is happy and healthy in our dt right now) was quite sick, and ended up dying, and his early symptoms were somewhat similar to this, though much more severe (covered much more of his body, and he was acting very strange, and wasn't eating). Anyway that said it progressed quickly, and killed in very little time. So I wanted to be super safe, even if I'm just being paranoid.
So thought I'd post this up now, to get early feedback.
Here is the previous thread (it's got some graphic photos, as forewarning) for reference:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/new-kole-tang-may-be-sick-need-help.258897/
Upon re-reading, it definitely doesn't look the same as that, which is a bit re-assuring. Anyway...
Here is a couple current pics showing the "spot". It's possible it's been there since day one, in which case it might just be an old "War wound" from the wild/etc....
Sorry for bad quality pics, it's taken on a phone and while he's a lot easier to photograph now than he was 8 days ago, he still swims very actively and is always moving, so hard to get a clear shot of.
There are a couple more pics, and a video in the other linked thread as well (from when I first got him).
Anyway, any feedback/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. (even if you tell me I'm just being paranoid, and worrying too much, that's fine too lol).
Oh, on-hand I have a bit (might be enough for another course) of Kanaplex, as well as Copper. But LFS is open for a couple more hours, so if I need anything else, please let me know ASAP.
Also water parameters:
Temp - 79
Salinity - 1.023 (was 1.021 from LFS, slowly raising it over several weeks to 1.025 to match display)
Ammonia - 0
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - 30ish? (needs water change I know, was still a bit high from running the qt ghost-fed for the past couple months to keep biofilter healthy, did a change, but needs another one, just didn't want to stress him out more with a change right away).
PH 8.0 approx (hard to read accurately on API test, but should be between 8.0 and 8.1 from what I can tell)
This QT has been up and running since just after the last incident. After that incident I did a full teardown (and then the tank developed a leak, so we replaced the tank entirely). It was freshly cycled, and after that, we added a Decorated Goby, who was very healthy, spent about 6 weeks in QT, and is now in the DT. It's been fallow for probably 90 days since he was done, been ghost feeding (tiny amount of flakes) with an auto-feeder to keep biofilter healthy for that time.
Only filteration is a HOB 120G rated Aquaclear filter, running with only foam, and live rubble in it.
But I have carbon pads for it etc, in case needed for medication in the event it becomes a hospital.
It has a heater, and a very small power head, and a couple pieces of live rock. There is very little algae growing in it unfortunately, so not much for him to graze on, but I saw him eat at LFS (eating live macro growing in the tank, and flakes) and I'm feeding flakes (Which I've seen him eat, but he doesn't go nuts for them) and he definitely eats nori. (and he's constantly picking at the rocks/glass/bottom etc)
He was supposedly in the LFS for 2 weeks, the first week of which he spent in a QT system running copper, and then another week in their invert/reef tank, which had only himself, and 3 yellow tangs in it (all from same QT batch). which is when we bought him.
Hopefully that's enough info to get rolling. If you need more please just ask, I'll do my best.
Here's hoping I'm just being paranoid
but if not I'd rather try to catch something early and treat, than find it late and have a repeat of the last time...
Also here is the obligatory @melypr1985 @Humblefish and #reefsquad tags
Anyway thanks again!
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/new-kole-tang-is-he-breathing-heavy-video.281356/
He's been eating in QT, he's definitely eating Nori, about a 2" square sheet every other day. And he's nibbling at veggie flakes, etc occasionally. I put some chaeto in the qt from my sump as well, and he doesn't appear to be eating that (that I've seen).
Anyway, he's active, and seems happy, he was very skittish when I got him (normal) but now is much less so, he'll come out and watch me through the glass etc...
But yesterday/today I noticed a small patch of discoloration on his right side, just behind his right eye. My Wife is pretty sure it's been there since day one, but I'm not 100% sure...
Either way, the last Kole we bought (same time as our Foxface which is happy and healthy in our dt right now) was quite sick, and ended up dying, and his early symptoms were somewhat similar to this, though much more severe (covered much more of his body, and he was acting very strange, and wasn't eating). Anyway that said it progressed quickly, and killed in very little time. So I wanted to be super safe, even if I'm just being paranoid.
So thought I'd post this up now, to get early feedback.
Here is the previous thread (it's got some graphic photos, as forewarning) for reference:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/new-kole-tang-may-be-sick-need-help.258897/
Upon re-reading, it definitely doesn't look the same as that, which is a bit re-assuring. Anyway...
Here is a couple current pics showing the "spot". It's possible it's been there since day one, in which case it might just be an old "War wound" from the wild/etc....
Sorry for bad quality pics, it's taken on a phone and while he's a lot easier to photograph now than he was 8 days ago, he still swims very actively and is always moving, so hard to get a clear shot of.
There are a couple more pics, and a video in the other linked thread as well (from when I first got him).
Anyway, any feedback/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. (even if you tell me I'm just being paranoid, and worrying too much, that's fine too lol).
Oh, on-hand I have a bit (might be enough for another course) of Kanaplex, as well as Copper. But LFS is open for a couple more hours, so if I need anything else, please let me know ASAP.
Also water parameters:
Temp - 79
Salinity - 1.023 (was 1.021 from LFS, slowly raising it over several weeks to 1.025 to match display)
Ammonia - 0
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - 30ish? (needs water change I know, was still a bit high from running the qt ghost-fed for the past couple months to keep biofilter healthy, did a change, but needs another one, just didn't want to stress him out more with a change right away).
PH 8.0 approx (hard to read accurately on API test, but should be between 8.0 and 8.1 from what I can tell)
This QT has been up and running since just after the last incident. After that incident I did a full teardown (and then the tank developed a leak, so we replaced the tank entirely). It was freshly cycled, and after that, we added a Decorated Goby, who was very healthy, spent about 6 weeks in QT, and is now in the DT. It's been fallow for probably 90 days since he was done, been ghost feeding (tiny amount of flakes) with an auto-feeder to keep biofilter healthy for that time.
Only filteration is a HOB 120G rated Aquaclear filter, running with only foam, and live rubble in it.
But I have carbon pads for it etc, in case needed for medication in the event it becomes a hospital.
It has a heater, and a very small power head, and a couple pieces of live rock. There is very little algae growing in it unfortunately, so not much for him to graze on, but I saw him eat at LFS (eating live macro growing in the tank, and flakes) and I'm feeding flakes (Which I've seen him eat, but he doesn't go nuts for them) and he definitely eats nori. (and he's constantly picking at the rocks/glass/bottom etc)
He was supposedly in the LFS for 2 weeks, the first week of which he spent in a QT system running copper, and then another week in their invert/reef tank, which had only himself, and 3 yellow tangs in it (all from same QT batch). which is when we bought him.
Hopefully that's enough info to get rolling. If you need more please just ask, I'll do my best.
Here's hoping I'm just being paranoid
but if not I'd rather try to catch something early and treat, than find it late and have a repeat of the last time... Also here is the obligatory @melypr1985 @Humblefish and #reefsquad tags
Anyway thanks again!
