Lagoon Frags Let's Crowd Source Again

[Tenecor Aquariums]

Hello Reefers. Our last crowd source went very well and and the new Nanos are now available for sale >>> https://tenecoraquariums.com/collections/aio-nanos-view-all.

Special thanks to all who commented. Our next project is coming up with a new and improved Lagoon Frag aquarium. We already offer an extensive selection of these tanks and would like to hear from everyone what we can do better.

What are some ideal sizes? Depths? Lids required? Feature requests?

Below are some images to start the conversation. 3-2-1 GO!

 

[KrisReef]

Nice, first one-liner comment- Take the Logo off the front of the tank. I think that more people would buy them if they can see inside.

Ok That is out of the way. Let me get out of the way and actually consider your original question and brilliant engagement with us reef crazed tank consumers who fully enjoy the tank selections you provide us.
Thanks for the opportunity to improve available products to enhance our modern reefing passion.

 

[unchaotic]

What about an option for a high flow system planned out for SPS growers? You could send it prepped and with supplies to plumb in a closed loop system.

 

[Tenecor Aquariums]

Nice, first one-liner comment- Take the Logo off the front of the tank. I think that more people would buy them if they can see inside.

Ok That is out of the way. Let me get out of the way and actually consider your original question and brilliant engagement with us reef crazed tank consumers who fully enjoy the tank selections you provide us.
Thanks for the opportunity to improve available products to enhance our modern reefing passion.

I am having our design staff remove them. They already are off the nanos and rectangular sizes. We are also moving away from renders and will be using real photos

 

[sante21079]

For the SPS frag tanks, have a drybox (inside the AIO chamber) for the dry side of the ecotech vortech.

 

[Tenecor Aquariums]

What about an option for a high flow system planned out for SPS growers? You could send it prepped and with supplies to plumb in a closed loop system.

I am listening. Sketch up something. As for the complete package, you are spot on. One thing we will be doing is offering these as well as many of our other tanks as complete systems. Pumps, lights, stands. Everything. A big factor is the freight. What we spend shipping a 48 inch frag would be about the same if we added a stand to the shipment. It's almost like getting the entire package for just a few dollars more. We did some price comparisons and we like what we see

 

[Tenecor Aquariums]

For the SPS frag tanks, have a drybox (inside the AIO chamber) for the dry side of the ecotech vortech.

This is doable for the larger sizes

 

[Mr_Knightley]

I would try and reduce the eurobracing around the top as much as possible, maybe down to 3/4" thick to leave a lot of room for direct viewing. A low-profile AIO section is also a must, maybe it could even be isolated to one side in larger (30"+) tanks? Again, that adds more viewing space and space for frags. A small black acrylic lid that fits over the AIO, with a few notches for heater and pump cords, would be great too as I find myself staring at filter media as much as I look at the corals themselves! A lightly rounded edge seems to add a lot to frag tanks as well, as opposed to straight, sharp edges.
Can you tell I'm trying to find a nice frag tank? xD

 

[Tenecor Aquariums]

I would try and reduce the eurobracing around the top as much as possible, maybe down to 3/4" thick to leave a lot of room for direct viewing. A low-profile AIO section is also a must, maybe it could even be isolated to one side in larger (30"+) tanks? Again, that adds more viewing space and space for frags. A small black acrylic lid that fits over the AIO, with a few notches for heater and pump cords, would be great too as I find myself staring at filter media as much as I look at the corals themselves! A lightly rounded edge seems to add a lot to frag tanks as well, as opposed to straight, sharp edges.
Can you tell I'm trying to find a nice frag tank? xD

The filter lids are happening already. Black ABS. No charge. What about view area lids?

 

[Tenecor Aquariums]

I would try and reduce the eurobracing around the top as much as possible, maybe down to 3/4" thick to leave a lot of room for direct viewing. A low-profile AIO section is also a must, maybe it could even be isolated to one side in larger (30"+) tanks? Again, that adds more viewing space and space for frags. A small black acrylic lid that fits over the AIO, with a few notches for heater and pump cords, would be great too as I find myself staring at filter media as much as I look at the corals themselves! A lightly rounded edge seems to add a lot to frag tanks as well, as opposed to straight, sharp edges.
Can you tell I'm trying to find a nice frag tank? xD

"Low profile AIO"? Not following you.

 

[sante21079]

This is doable for the larger sizes

Wouldn’t an mp10 dry side work in the smaller ones?

 

[Mr_Knightley]

The filter lids are happening already. Black ABS. No charge. What about view area lids?

For a frag tank? I'm not sure a whole top lid would be necessary, especially if these were to be used for traveling swaps and shows they'd be off most of the time. For larger tanks like that, the only real practical lids would be mesh as the acrylic (in my little experience) can bow pretty bad on it's own.

"Low profile AIO"? Not following you.

Something like this. I guess low-profile just means space efficient, which I'm sure y'all are already working on. The other part is illustrated here:
So in longer tanks, the AIO can be isolated to the back wall on only one side, which takes up less viewing space than if it were against a side wall.

 

[Cell]

10"-16" depth

I'd love a netted lid with removable panel to make it fully enclosed if desired. My tanks evaporate so much water during winters here in MN. I use polycarbonate sheets to cover them.

Built in/removable frag racks/shelves would be a cool and unique feature. They could slide into notches or have holes that you place onto fixed pegs/legs etc

Evaporation in shallow tanks with a lot of surface area is an issue. A frag tank AIO with integrated ATO reservoir would be nice.

As previously mentioned, a closed loop type system would be awesome.

 

[Tenecor Aquariums]

Another reason why I like doing these crowd sources is because of the improvements we make to our processes as well as our products.

The first generation of the cube nano was made from 236. Very thick for this size tank. We made them topless and the overall dims were 10/10/10 and 12/12/12. The feedback was
1) the aio took up too much space.
Result : new dims of 10/14/10 and 12/16/12. Other models changed accordingly.
2) flow too high.
Result : loc line valves
3) aio lids
Result : black abs with cord cutouts
4) view area lids
Result : this was a tough one. Two part solution. Thinner walls ( more on this below) and integrated perimeter top with CNC lid recess. New one piece meshless lid sits nicely inside the recess.
5) update sponge filter
Result: we discussed going from sponge to filter socks. This meant wider AIO chamber (more on this below). Or filter cup. Or polyester matrix. On the small cube tanks, reusable polyester matrix. Larger nanos, filter cups with option for socks. Filter cups are now offered for all otheraquarium brands as well.

6) quality issues. Several first batch cubes were not up to our standards and our testers let us know. Out of square was the number one problem. Followed by poor filter seam quality.
Result : out of square out of dim spec was due to using too heavy gauge walls and having trouble fixturing these small sizes. We don't make tiny tanks like this from 1/4 inch. As a matter of fact, this was the smallest tank we ever made. Changed the wall spec to 177 and problem solved. This required a minimal perimeter top which resolved the lid challenge.
Poor aio sump seam quality was because we never built coast to coast aio before in this small size. Process improvement and lighter gauge walls improved these. Still a work in progress. Below are some pics of a 12 cube pulled of the line this afternoon. Notice the dims. +/- 1/32".
I will post some pics of the top shortly. Trying something a little fun with it.

Rsuk

 

[Woodyman]

Another reason why I like doing these crowd sources is because of the improvements we make to our processes as well as our products.

The first generation of the cube nano was made from 236. Very thick for this size tank. We made them topless and the overall dims were 10/10/10 and 12/12/12. The feedback was
1) the aio took up too much space.
Result : new dims of 10/14/10 and 12/16/12. Other models changed accordingly.
2) flow too high.
Result : loc line valves
3) aio lids
Result : black abs with cord cutouts
4) view area lids
Result : this was a tough one. Two part solution. Thinner walls ( more on this below) and integrated perimeter top with CNC lid recess. New one piece meshless lid sits nicely inside the recess.
5) update sponge filter
Result: we discussed going from sponge to filter socks. This meant wider AIO chamber (more on this below). Or filter cup. Or polyester matrix. On the small cube tanks, reusable polyester matrix. Larger nanos, filter cups with option for socks. Filter cups are now offered for all otheraquarium brands as well.

6) quality issues. Several first batch cubes were not up to our standards and our testers let us know. Out of square was the number one problem. Followed by poor filter seam quality.
Result : out of square out of dim spec was due to using too heavy gauge walls and having trouble fixturing these small sizes. We don't make tiny tanks like this from 1/4 inch. As a matter of fact, this was the smallest tank we ever made. Changed the wall spec to 177 and problem solved. This required a minimal perimeter top which resolved the lid challenge.
Poor aio sump seam quality was because we never built coast to coast aio before in this small size. Process improvement and lighter gauge walls improved these. Still a work in progress. Below are some pics of a 12 cube pulled of the line this afternoon. Notice the dims. +/- 1/32".
I will post some pics of the top shortly. Trying something a little fun with it.

Rsuk

These look good!

 

[Woodyman]

Hey @kapnkush608 check out the above

 

[Tenecor Aquariums]

These look good!

Tbh, they are awesome. Wait for the update on the tops options. You will either love it or not so much like it.

 

[Woodyman]

Tbh, they are awesome. Wait for the update on the tops options. You will either love it or not so much like it.

Seam lines look nice and clean on those.

 

[Tenecor Aquariums]

Tbh, they are awesome. Wait for the update on the tops options. You will either love it or not so much like it.

I also have some really good lighting samples on the way.

 

[Tenecor Aquariums]

Seam lines look nice and clean on those.

This is the way they are supposed to look.