Livestock for Aiptasia Control

OP
OP
Hugh Mann

Hugh Mann

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 12, 2020
Messages
1,998
Reaction score
1,986
Location
Merritt, BC
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
It's hard to be patient, I want this aiptasia to hurry up and go away. Dang stuff is persistent, even growing out of my chaeto and other macro algae. But as with many things in this hobby, it's all about waiting.
 
OP
OP
Hugh Mann

Hugh Mann

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 12, 2020
Messages
1,998
Reaction score
1,986
Location
Merritt, BC
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I tried a file fish to no success. He did nip at the nassarius snails.
can’t find the specific nudis in Canada so didn’t try this even though I’d like to.
I bought three peppermint shrimp, two survived. I went really light on the feeding for the first couple of weeks and combined with Aptasia x, my aptasia has really come down. Certainly not gone but the tank looks much better.
I did get a Copperband that didn’t make it through quarantine sadly.

Bigshowfrags, based I believe in Ontario often carries nudibranches.

J&L Aquatics in BC sometimes has them, it's where I got mine. Had to call and ask though, they weren't on the stock list.

Canada Corals, also in BC can get them in too.

All about the same price, $25 each, and all offer shipping at various costs, though I am warned Peppermints will eat aiptasia flavored berghias.
 

Samsquanch

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Dec 31, 2019
Messages
73
Reaction score
43
Location
Flint, MI
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I had a decent aiptasia problem, I tired peppermint shrimps but they never really did much and I think my pistol shrimp might of killed a few. Next I tried a majano wand but that was kinda hard to get the base and they'd just grow back. I eventually got a file fish, now I contemplate getting aipasia covered rocks just to give him a snack because he took care of all the aiptasia in my tank, I havent seen a single one in almost a year! He's a model citizen in my tank never had a issue with him eating my LPS or anything I wouldn't want him to eat. Him and my yellow tang kinda team up and pick at rocks all day. He's also my most alert fish, simular to a puffer with his eyes, I can see him watch me as I move around the tank.
 

marcusbacus

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 17, 2015
Messages
30
Reaction score
23
Location
Belo Horizonte, Brazil
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I've come to the conclusion that I suck at manually controlling aiptasia. Boiling water, lemon juice, the various kalk pastes, all I end up doing is turning 1 into 4-5. As I move to upgrade to a 230 Gallon, I will barely be able to reach the bottom of the tank, so the precise application needed for the chemical methods is a no go anyways.

I know there's an assortment of livestock out there that will eat it. I'm aware of a few, but I'm sure there's more I don't. What are these animals, and what are the pros/cons of keeping them?

Berghia: Devours aiptasia, but as I understand it, they'll often starve to death after eating it all. At $25-$40 each, not exactly ideal.

Filefish: Won't stop at aiptasia, and can/will eat any and all anenomes.

CB Butterfly: Doesn't always eat aiptasia, can be a delicate fish from what I've read.

Peppermint Shrimp: Expensive yet equally tasty eel snacks.
Berghia is really effective, and they reproduce like crazy. You probably can find someone that has a big population and can sell you some much cheaper than that (I bought mine for like $5 each a couple years ago, just 4 of them, that turned into a hundred pretty fast) or you can even get some for free.
 
OP
OP
Hugh Mann

Hugh Mann

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 12, 2020
Messages
1,998
Reaction score
1,986
Location
Merritt, BC
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Berghia is really effective, and they reproduce like crazy. You probably can find someone that has a big population and can sell you some much cheaper than that (I bought mine for like $5 each a couple years ago, just 4 of them, that turned into a hundred pretty fast) or you can even get some for free.

Not around me. It's a very uncommon hobby. Though I did pick up 4 berghias this weekend. Haven't yet seen them do their thing, but I am told it will be weeks or months.
 

[Cameron]

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 18, 2018
Messages
241
Reaction score
210
Location
Cape Coral, FL
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I strongly suggest you do not kill aiptasia without managing its "babies". Killing one can cause them to explode in a tank. The method we used ages ago was to irritate it until it retracted, nuke it with kalkwasser then use putty to seal it off. This prevents it from spreading as it dies off. Wear gloves.

Livestock is very hit and miss.
 

DinoMagnet

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Jul 20, 2020
Messages
359
Reaction score
426
Location
orange county
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Following ! I am trying peppermint shrimp and they have yet to go after any aiptasia. I’d love to get some berghia but just like you said at that price point and needing to get multiple doesn’t seem ideal for them to just die off eventually .
See if you can trade them, I had about 20-25 aptasias I couldn’t keep up with aptasia x. I got two pep shrimps n they literally ate them in a 24 hr span.
 

HockeyRooster

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 31, 2020
Messages
315
Reaction score
297
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Bigshowfrags, based I believe in Ontario often carries nudibranches.

J&L Aquatics in BC sometimes has them, it's where I got mine. Had to call and ask though, they weren't on the stock list.

Canada Corals, also in BC can get them in too.

All about the same price, $25 each, and all offer shipping at various costs, though I am warned Peppermints will eat aiptasia flavored berghias.
Thanks for the tip! Lots of good info. As soon as the weather warms up in a few months, I think I’ll order some.
 

jaganshi066

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 20, 2021
Messages
1,309
Reaction score
777
Location
los angeles
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I guess I was lucky......spend $25 for 5 peppermint shrimps, and they wiped out 10-15 aiptasia (and a few big ones) over the next few days. I haven't seen neither the shrimps nor aiptasia for almost a year now.
I bought 4 peppermints and they have never touched the aiptasia. I have a 40 gallon and only 3 aiptasias, but they didn’t go near it. They got hungry and even flipped over my snails and ate them
 

jaganshi066

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 20, 2021
Messages
1,309
Reaction score
777
Location
los angeles
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
It's hard to be patient, I want this aiptasia to hurry up and go away. Dang stuff is persistent, even growing out of my chaeto and other macro algae. But as with many things in this hobby, it's all about waiting.
I’ve tried peppermints and they didn’t touch it and instead went after my nerith and cerith snails. Literally flipped them over from the glass and I had to keep pushing them away. I tried aiptasia x and the thing worked and it hasn’t been back
 

Sudaien

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Sep 1, 2020
Messages
126
Reaction score
90
Location
Colorado
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Following ! I am trying peppermint shrimp and they have yet to go after any aiptasia. I’d love to get some berghia but just like you said at that price point and needing to get multiple doesn’t seem ideal for them to just die off eventually .
i put many peppermint shrimp in my tank to get some aiptasia , they did nothing, they did however wreak havoc on my zoa colonies , so i used coral glue on the aiptasia and bought a marine betta to eat the peppermint shrimp. all is well in my tank now
 

jaganshi066

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 20, 2021
Messages
1,309
Reaction score
777
Location
los angeles
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
i put many peppermint shrimp in my tank to get some aiptasia , they did nothing, they did however wreak havoc on my zoa colonies , so i used coral glue on the aiptasia and bought a marine betta to eat the peppermint shrimp. all is well in my tank now
The 4 peppermints I got for my 40 gallon kept flipping my snails over from the glass and tried to eat them, but didn’t touch one aiptasia
 

Midrats

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Jul 16, 2015
Messages
2,099
Reaction score
2,292
Location
Madison
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Every time I use F Aiptasia I notice new little ones popping up all over, and I entomb them in the stuff.
 

Mjl714

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Aug 4, 2014
Messages
1,106
Reaction score
1,844
Location
Earth
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I have a Kleini Butterfly on order to take care my aptasia. My understanding is that they clean it up really quick and are safer for SPS, but not so much for LPS and softies, so not sure if that is an option in your tank.
Also I had some small aptasia starting in my frag tank, added a peppermint shrimp and they were gone the next day, downside I think it has been snacking on a couple of LPS in the tank.
Any update on the effectiveness of the butterfly?
 

Bossman

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 3, 2018
Messages
580
Reaction score
678
Location
WAYLAND
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I had a Kleini Butterfly and a Brown Butterfly (Heniochus varius) and both did indeed control the aiptasia. But overtime my soft corals all started to recede. The butterflies were constantly picking at everything. My muschrooms, rics, palys and even leathers. Beautiful fish and I almost kept the Brown Butterfly but don't want a fish only tank.
 

danieyella

unfriendly local swamp witch
View Badges
Joined
Oct 1, 2018
Messages
10,215
Reaction score
63,791
Location
Hernando County
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I've tried everything and the only thing that worked was Berghia, not cheap but you may be able to recapture and sell if your part of local reef crew. That's how I got mine.
They work the best for sure, but don't spend the money on them if you have wrasse, they'll knock them out before they can do their job.
 

DaddyFish

“5 percenter”
View Badges
Joined
May 6, 2020
Messages
1,238
Reaction score
1,719
Location
Dallas NC
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
High-power laser fish.
1612719179523.png
 

Rock solid aquascape: Does the weight of the rocks in your aquascape matter?

  • The weight of the rocks is a key factor.

    Votes: 10 8.5%
  • The weight of the rocks is one of many factors.

    Votes: 43 36.8%
  • The weight of the rocks is a minor factor.

    Votes: 35 29.9%
  • The weight of the rocks is not a factor.

    Votes: 28 23.9%
  • Other.

    Votes: 1 0.9%
Back
Top