Lost royal gramma to this. Now on clown. Not sure if velvet or brook. Any advice?

[chandavi]

White spots appeared and killed Royal gramma in 3 days. Now on clown. Any advice if either velvet or brook?
tank 2 months old
32.5 gallon
pH- 8
Ammonia- <.25
Nitrite- 0
Nitrate- 0
kH- 8
Cal- 500
78deg F
Sal 1.026

 

[Jay Hemdal]

That isn't Brooklynella. If the fish are not breathing really fast, then it isn't Amyloodinium (velvet). It is most likely Cryptocaryon (ich). Royal Grammas are very susceptible to ich. However, the general rule is: once ich has reached the point where fish loss has occurred, it is very difficult to treat quickly enough in order to keep further fish loss from happening. There is no effective display tank treatment for ich, you'll need to set up a treatment tank and get a copper treatment started ASAP. I know that is a huge issue to do that, but there really isn't any other good course of action. Sorry!

Jay

 

[chandavi]

That isn't Brooklynella. If the fish are not breathing really fast, then it isn't Amyloodinium (velvet). It is most likely Cryptocaryon (ich). Royal Grammas are very susceptible to ich. However, the general rule is: once ich has reached the point where fish loss has occurred, it is very difficult to treat quickly enough in order to keep further fish loss from happening. There is no effective display tank treatment for ich, you'll need to set up a treatment tank and get a copper treatment started ASAP. I know that is a huge issue to do that, but there really isn't any other good course of action. Sorry!

Jay

Thx Jay!
QT set up today. 2 clowns and watchman goby still hanging in their new copper treated 80 day home
1 question: will adding bacteria (seed) be helpful in new QT tank or will copper just kill it it?

 

[lkc]

Adding bacteria is fine. But remove that rock.

 

[lkc]

And dump the bacteria right onto that sponge.

 

[chandavi]

Ah, didnt think to dump bacteria onto sponge. I’ll do that with next and each subsequent treatment.
Rock gone.

 

[ssunthar]

White spots appeared and killed Royal gramma in 3 days. Now on clown. Any advice if either velvet or brook?
tank 2 months old
32.5 gallon
pH- 8
Ammonia- <.25
Nitrite- 0
Nitrate- 0
kH- 8
Cal- 500
78deg F
Sal 1.026

Hope they recover sooner...

 

[ssunthar]

That isn't Brooklynella. If the fish are not breathing really fast, then it isn't Amyloodinium (velvet). It is most likely Cryptocaryon (ich). Royal Grammas are very susceptible to ich. However, the general rule is: once ich has reached the point where fish loss has occurred, it is very difficult to treat quickly enough in order to keep further fish loss from happening. There is no effective display tank treatment for ich, you'll need to set up a treatment tank and get a copper treatment started ASAP. I know that is a huge issue to do that, but there really isn't any other good course of action. Sorry!

Jay

Jay thanks for the tip.. any good copper brands that you can suggest? Will copper treatment affect corals?

 

[lkc]

Keep copper away, way away from your main tank. It will kill everything but fish.
Also, look up which fish are sensitive to copper.
Use copper power. You can use Prime with it to control ammonia. You WILL get ammonia in that tank with two fish for sure.
The main tank will need to go totally fishless (fallow) for seventy something days...2 and a half months.
Google Humble fish forums....he's an expert on disease and eradication. Everything you need to know.

 

[ssunthar]

Keep copper away, way away from your main tank. It will kill everything but fish.
Also, look up which fish are sensitive to copper.
Use copper power. You can use Prime with it to control ammonia. You WILL get ammonia in that tank with two fish for sure.
The main tank will need to go totally fishless (fallow) for seventy something days...2 and a half months.
Google Humble fish forums....he's an expert on disease and eradication. Everything you need to know.

Thank you very much

 

[chandavi]

Thank you very much

Clowns and watchman hanging in there. Clowns ate this morning. Is the watchman goby going to do ok with no sand:gravel? Looks like he’s constantly trying to dig on the glass. Or maybe just sees himself?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Clowns and watchman hanging in there. Clowns ate this morning. Is the watchman goby going to do ok with no sand:gravel? Looks like he’s constantly trying to dig on the glass. Or maybe just sees himself?

The goby isn’t going to enjoy it, but unless you go out and locate some more inert (not coral) sand, there isn’t much you can do about it. I will sometimes paint the bottom of tanks flat black to try and reduce the reflection.
Jay

 

[lkc]

Watchman don't need sand at all. I have two and they did great. But you could give him a smaller bolt hole like a 1 inch PVC pipe so he
doesn't feel so exposed.