Manual Removal of Dinos?

Boss · Jul 21, 2020

What are the opinions on the best way to manually remove Dinos? Would anyone recommend against brushing them off rocks and corals with a toothbrush? I'm worried about whether they would spread doing this? I was hoping someone invented something that incorporates a brush and a suction mechanism but I haven't seen anything like that. Thanks for the help.

ichthyogeek · Jul 22, 2020

You mean like...taking a toothbrush and strapping it to a hose? and then doing a water change with the hose?

Crustaceon · Jul 22, 2020

You can try to, but you likely won’t get enough of it and it’ll come back in force within a day or two.

vetteguy53081 · Jul 22, 2020

Best and most effective method is to do a 5 day blackout (all lights off) and during day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria per 10 gallons and blow the dino loose with a turkey baster and either siphon or net the loose dino and discard. At night, dose 1ml of hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons- ALL THIS 5 days straight and you will have your tank back

Spare time · Jul 22, 2020

vetteguy53081 said:
Best and most effective method is to do a 5 day blackout (all lights off) and during day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria per 10 gallons and blow the dino loose with a turkey baster and either siphon or net the loose dino and discard. At night, dose 1ml of hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons- ALL THIS 5 days straight and you will have your tank back

What kind of bacteria are you thinking of? I raised my nitrate and phosphate up and then dosed waste away and eco balance in mine but no blackout.

vetteguy53081 · Jul 22, 2020

Spare time said:
What kind of bacteria are you thinking of? I raised my nitrate and phosphate up and then dosed waste away and eco balance in mine but no blackout.

Bacter 7

Spare time · Jul 22, 2020

vetteguy53081 said:
Bacter 7

I wonder then if its the heterotrophs in it that work for this. In that case, maybe microbacter clean would work even better?

kartrsu · Jul 22, 2020

Depends on what you have. I had Ostreopsis which enters the water column when lights out. I fixed it with uv, nutrient dosing, adding gunk from established tank, and blowing / scrubbing slime off rocks + stirring sand before bed. No change to photoperiod or blackout. I didn’t care that it spread when I did that cause at night they’ll enter the water and die from UV. I believe the other types may not do the same, so in that case I wouldn’t scrub unless you can siphon at the same time. You’ll just spread it more while you wait for treatment to take effect.

kartrsu · Jul 22, 2020

Microbacter7 I read is not effective against Ostreopsis, but good for other strands.

Boss · Jul 22, 2020

ichthyogeek said:
You mean like...taking a toothbrush and strapping it to a hose? and then doing a water change with the hose?

yeah I thought that would be a good tool for removing it from rocks and getting it out of the tank simultaneously. I've never seen anything like that though.

Boss · Jul 22, 2020

vetteguy53081 said:
Best and most effective method is to do a 5 day blackout (all lights off) and during day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria per 10 gallons and blow the dino loose with a turkey baster and either siphon or net the loose dino and discard. At night, dose 1ml of hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons- ALL THIS 5 days straight and you will have your tank back

Thanks. That was my next move but I've heard mixed reviews. A lot of people said you also need to manually remove as many of the dinos as you can which is why I was considering this approach and addition to that.

vetteguy53081 · Jul 22, 2020

Boss said:
Thanks. That was my next move but I've heard mixed reviews. A lot of people said you also need to manually remove as many of the dinos as you can which is why I was considering this approach and addition to that.

Yes- thats where turkey baster comes in

Boss · Jul 22, 2020

vetteguy53081 said:
Yes- thats where turkey baster comes in

Do you use the baster to suck the dinos off the rock? Just double-checking since when I've blown them off they seem to disappear into the water column so hard to catch (but UV might get them though

).

Also, I've never done a blackout so worried about corals. is it safe to go 5 days or should it still work if I go 3 or 4? Just worried about doing 5 days right out of the gates. Thanks.

vetteguy53081 · Jul 22, 2020

Boss said:
Do you use the baster to suck the dinos off the rock? Just double-checking since when I've blown them off they seem to disappear into the water column so hard to catch (but UV might get them though ).

Also, I've never done a blackout so worried about corals. is it safe to go 5 days or should it still work if I go 3 or 4? Just worried about doing 5 days right out of the gates. Thanks.

Blackout is safe. For corals, you can go 5% BLUE.
Disappearing into into water column is ok. Clean the filters daily that is trapping it OR add a sock/stocking to catch the particle. Baster can be used to suck up dinos. I find it sucks up as much as it looses in the process

Boss · Jul 22, 2020

vetteguy53081 said:
Blackout is safe. For corals, you can go 5% BLUE.
Disappearing into into water column is ok. Clean the filters daily that is trapping it OR add a sock/stocking to catch the particle. Baster can be used to suck up dinos. I find it sucks up as much as it looses in the process

I currently don't have any filter socks but I have some 10 microns socks showing up in a week. Would you wait for them or do it now?

Also what do you mean by 5% blue? Are you saying to turn the lights down to 5% of the normal intensity of light and to just keep the blue lights on during the blackout? Or should I just turn off all the lights for 5 days. I have mainly LPS and SPS and I'm running Radion lights. Thanks for the clarification and all your help.

vetteguy53081 · Jul 23, 2020

Boss said:
I currently don't have any filter socks but I have some 10 microns socks showing up in a week. Would you wait for them or do it now?

Also what do you mean by 5% blue? Are you saying to turn the lights down to 5% of the normal intensity of light and to just keep the blue lights on during the blackout? Or should I just turn off all the lights for 5 days. I have mainly LPS and SPS and I'm running Radion lights. Thanks for the clarification and all your help.

Ultimately off but you can go DOWN TO 5% total.
Sooner on entrapment the better, even a stocking will work.
Oh AND IMPORTANT- DO NOT feed any coral foods or add NoPox to tank as this is fuel for the Dino

Boss · Jul 29, 2020

vetteguy53081 said:
Ultimately off but you can go DOWN TO 5% total.
Sooner on entrapment the better, even a stocking will work.
Oh AND IMPORTANT- DO NOT feed any coral foods or add NoPox to tank as this is fuel for the Dino

I just bought some 10 micron filter socks to filter out dinos. Any suggestions on how to clean dinos out of a 10 micron filter sock? I'd preferably like to use the sock again in about 12 hours if possible. Thanks for the help.