My 10+ year old Unicorn Tang died tonight

Roggio · Jan 20, 2018

Before I left this morning he appeared to be breathing heavy and would not eat. He has always been an aggressive eater. The other fish are eating but now it appears my desjardini tang is breathing heavy but eating. I haven't added any fish to my tank. Everyone has been healthy for years. I just lost all my SPS coral to something unknown. All of the coral RTN despite my ideal parameters.

I love my fish and do not want to watch the rest die

Jeepguy242 · Jan 20, 2018

check ammonia

Roggio · Jan 20, 2018

Jeepguy242 said:
check ammonia

Checked. Came back at 0.

I had a large bubble tip moving around lately. There’s a low chance he could have rubbed it but the other fish is breathing heavily too.

Jeepguy242 · Jan 20, 2018

sorry for your loss... hope you can figure it out

TheEngineer · Jan 20, 2018

Really sorry to hear about your loss. I'd be pretty upset if that happened to my 9 year old clown.

I'd post this up in the fish disease forum so the experts there will see it too. My first check would be ammonia as well. How recently did all of your corals go? I'd be concerned something is way off in the tank. Can you do a really large water change?

Roggio · Jan 20, 2018

It looks like I found something.

******* peace of **** neptune product. I hate that company

Randomly it decided to dump all of my alk and calcium in my tank. It’s been dosing for months and randomly does this.

Their garbage product killed my pet I loved

Jeepguy242 · Jan 20, 2018

i have been seeing so many posts about controllers causing problems lately i have decided to just keep my lights on a controller and my kalk stirrer on the timer.....

it has been running on the same timer for 6 years with the only fault being mine by manually turning on the ATO and forgetting to turn it off.... i come back in to the room after a shower and my tank looked like someone dumped 2 gallons of milk in it

Mark Gray · Jan 20, 2018

Wow Sorry for your loss hope you can figure out what happened

Jeepguy242 · Jan 20, 2018

Roggio said:
It looks like I found something.

******* peace of **** neptune product. I hate that company

Randomly it decided to dump all of my alk and calcium in my tank. It’s been dosing for months and randomly does this.

Their garbage product killed my pet I loved

have you checked the programming? have you tinkered with it before the episode?

Roggio · Jan 20, 2018

Jeepguy242 said:
have you checked the programming? have you tinkered with it before the episode?

It's not the programming. I have not changed anything. The programming still says 40ML a day. Their product failed. It killed my fish. I have never hated a company so badly in my life @Terence hope to see you at the next show.

Big G · Jan 20, 2018

Sorry for your loss.

I have this love/hate relationship with technology. This is another check mark in the hate column.

TheEngineer · Jan 20, 2018

Did you test your water? That’s an awful thing to happen.

Mark Gray · Jan 20, 2018

Roggio said:
It's not the programming. I have not changed anything. The programming still says 40ML a day. Their product failed. It killed my fish. I have never hated a company so badly in my life @Terence hope to see you at the next show.

Are you sure your Apex failed?

videosilva · Jan 20, 2018

TURN OFF YOUR HEATER NOW ! Let the water cool down thus OXYGEN for the fish. Good luck.

videosilva · Jan 20, 2018

Forgot to mention if you have PRIME use it NOW ! Something in PRIME that just works !!!

Roggio · Jan 20, 2018

Mark Gray said:
Are you sure your Apex failed?

I'm sure, I started looking for problems when I realized the dosing pumps were stuck on. They dumped a liter of vodka and at least 800mg of calcium and Alk into my tank. Two different dosing pumps. I hate how these companies have no responsibility. If a product failed and killed my dog it would be on the news. This is a $2,000 investment that killed my fish. I'm making water as fast as I can to try and save my other fish.

Jeepguy242 · Jan 20, 2018

screen shows it dosed 800 ml instead of 40?

is that what i am reading.... i have a reef keeper that i use for a light timer only im not familiar with the apex..... i was thinking of upgrading but now not so sure...

Roggio · Jan 20, 2018

Jeepguy242 said:
screen shows it dosed 800 ml instead of 40?

is that what i am reading.... i have a reef keeper that i use for a light timer only im not familiar with the apex..... i was thinking of upgrading but now not so sure...

If you watch some of the MACNA videos the pros never use an APEX and if they do it does not control any equipment. Neptune is complete garbage. This isnt the first time I had issues. Their support takes weeks at times. I had to pay to ship back a defective product.

TheEngineer · Jan 20, 2018

Can you do some big water changes to get your levels down?

Humblefish · Jan 20, 2018

I'm so sorry for your losses.

If I had to guess, the calcium and Alk dump is what killed all your SPS. However, your fish are probably suffocating to death from all that vodka fueling bacteria growth and they are using up most of the oxygen in the water.

Point all your powerheads towards the surface of the water (to increase gas exchange) and run as many air stones in your DT as you can. Do water changes with heavily oxygenated water, and if the fish are looking too bad relocate them to another tank ASAP.