My First Softy Tank... which has turned into a mixed reef

[fishguy242]

@Eagle_Steve ,cipro? opinion? advise ? this has been ongoing for months BJD in start of losses thanks

 

[MERKEY]

Very sorry this is happening

What are you using to test your parameters.

Have you checked for any lose metal rusting in the sump perhaps?

 

[New&no clue]

@Eagle_Steve ,cipro? opinion? advise ? this has been ongoing for months BJD in start of losses thanks

@Eagle_Steve here is a link to what I had read

Experimenting with in-tank antibiotic treatments for Brown Jelly Disease

Brown Jelly Disease (BJD) is an issue many reefers have run into. Like most coral diseases, the pathogen causing BJD has not been conclusively determined. Here I will share some observations and test results supporting the idea that its caused by a bacterial pathogen, and so may be treatable...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[New&no clue]

Very sorry this is happening

What are you using to test your parameters.

Have you checked for any lose metal rusting in the sump perhaps?

Nitrates-Salifert
Phosphate- Hanna
Alk- Hanna
Calcium- Hanna
Mag- Salifert

I did clean my equipment about a month ago and didn't notice anything rusting. I will double check again that I don't see anything, or any magnets that look bad.

 

[Eagle_Steve]

@Eagle_Steve here is a link to what I had read

Experimenting with in-tank antibiotic treatments for Brown Jelly Disease

Brown Jelly Disease (BJD) is an issue many reefers have run into. Like most coral diseases, the pathogen causing BJD has not been conclusively determined. Here I will share some observations and test results supporting the idea that its caused by a bacterial pathogen, and so may be treatable...

www.reef2reef.com

I have used cipro to treat bjd before. So far it is about 50/50. This was with bubble corals, hammers and torches. Torches did the best to recover, bubble corals were the tough one out of the 3. This is all subjective, as when I acquired the corals, they were in really bad shape. Like really bad shape.

I did all of this in a 20 long with a hob and seeded media. The dosing is exactly as that write up. Make a solution and dose as directed in the article. Just a note, I have never done this in an active tank, so have no idea what it would do in one. I would assume not much, but you never know and I am one for a controlled environment.

Also, dose after lights out. Cipro is severely degraded in light.

 

[New&no clue]

I have used cipro to treat bjd before. So far it is about 50/50. This was with bubble corals, hammers and torches. Torches did the best to recover, bubble corals were the tough one out of the 3. This is all subjective, as when I acquired the corals, they were in really bad shape. Like really bad shape.

I did all of this in a 20 long with a hob and seeded media. The dosing is exactly as that write up. Make a solution and dose as directed in the article. Just a note, I have never done this in an active tank, so have no idea what it would do in one. I would assume not much, but you never know and I am one for a controlled environment.

Also, dose after lights out. Cipro is severely degraded in light.

Would you agree that the bacteria can stay in the tank? I ask because I bought a Duncan several weeks after all the euphyllias had died and been removed. It has been in the tank for about two weeks, and this morning when I checked the tank, it had brown jelly. I pulled it immediately out. The reason I would want to dose the tank is it appears that even though there are no affected corals in the tank, the BJD continues.

What would your recommendation be on what filtration to keep going while dosing and what to stop? For example, skimmer, carbon, macroalgae.

 

[Eagle_Steve]

Would you agree that the bacteria can stay in the tank? I ask because I bought a Duncan several weeks after all the euphyllias had died and been removed. It has been in the tank for about two weeks, and this morning when I checked the tank, it had brown jelly. I pulled it immediately out. The reason I would want to dose the tank is it appears that even though there are no affected corals in the tank, the BJD continues.

What would your recommendation be on what filtration to keep going while dosing and what to stop? For example, skimmer, carbon, macroalgae.

I have never ran into that issue, but do not see why it would not stay in the tank. For filtration,
I am not even sure what would remove it. I know if I was in the situation, I would treat my whole tank, turn off the skimmer, reduce feedings, turn off uv and remove carbon. I would also reverse my light cycle for the dt lights. Plus turn off the fuge lights. Basically make it to where I could watch the tank during my day and sleep when it was the tanks day, since cipro degrades under light.

That’s me though and I am not recommending you do it. I would have a ton of carbon on hand as a just in case, as well. Then watch the tank very closely for negative effects on anything.

Again, that is me and I in no way endorse it lol.

 

[fishguy242]

hope this helps..

 

[New&no clue]

I have never ran into that issue, but do not see why it would not stay in the tank. For filtration,
I am not even sure what would remove it. I know if I was in the situation, I would treat my whole tank, turn off the skimmer, reduce feedings, turn off uv and remove carbon. I would also reverse my light cycle for the dt lights. Plus turn off the fuge lights. Basically make it to where I could watch the tank during my day and sleep when it was the tanks day, since cipro degrades under light.

That’s me though and I am not recommending you do it. I would have a ton of carbon on hand as a just in case, as well. Then watch the tank very closely for negative effects on anything.

Again, that is me and I in no way endorse it lol.

LOL, thank you. You will in no way be blamed for the sudden implosion of my tank, but I do appreciate your high-level thoughts on the matter. I think more research is needed on my part before I move forward.

 

[New&no clue]

I've done some more research and gone back and forth on it several times, but I finally decided I would dose the tank with Cipro. There was nothing really that pushed me over the edge to do it. I didn't find much positive saying that dosing a DT with meds was a good idea. But I also didn't see anything where Cipro was terrible for fish, corals, or inverts. It seems it is recommended for all when there is some form of bacteria. In the end, it was more out of fear of not doing anything. I started today and will dose every other day three times. I removed my carbon and kept my skimmer going but took the cup off the top. I figured it wasn't a bad idea to have the skimmer running and adding oxygen into the tank. I didn't switch my light but did turn off the "moon" phase of my lights, so it's pitch black earlier and stays dark longer. Now I've been obsessively checking the tank. So far, everything seems fine. However, I think tomorrow morning, when lights come back on, will be the key.