Nano and Pico Tank Sizes

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  1. BlazinNano

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    After asking everyone in out community. We have come up with the size limits for Nano Tanks.

    Nano Tank - Any Display tank under 40 gallons. This does not include the sump or anything the tank is tied in to. It is just the display

    Pico Tank - Any Display tank under 5.5 gallons. This does not inclyde the sump or anything the tank is tied in to. Just the display.
     
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    There are quite a few people who keep 40 Breeders now as Nano's so maybe you should include those as well ... just my thoughts ..
     
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    For some reason I just can't see a 40 gallon tank being a nano. 40 breeders are pretty good sized tanks. Just my two cents though.....

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    Yeah, I have always thought of nano as <30g, 30+ just being small..
     
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    I guess Nanos are becoming not so Nano any more ... and I see a lot of 40B's that are being referred to as Nanos but I agree maybe there should be a category called " Small Reef" in addition to Nano, and Pico, and maybe even Femto :)
     
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    I wish people would consider 40G Nanos, but understand the confusion. In my case, I use machinery similar to "Nanos" because I am sumpless. If I saw a sumped 40B... I would have a slightly harder time viewing it as a Nano. If I were in charge of determining the "size" requirements, I would dictate 40 gallons or below... total volume. :D
     
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    Very well said indeed Electrobes .... a 40 B should IMO be included just as 20 G tanks that have 10 gal or even 20 gal sumps are considered Nanos ... I even have a friend who has a 10 Gallon Nano with a 28 gal Bowfront sump underneath .... so when you look at it that way anything IMO up to 40 Gals should be included and that is also how I noted it in my Nano Reef Aquariums Book ... (running low on printed copies btw) and have offered a special on the e-Version in the Albert Thiel thread here in the Nano section ... $15 instead of $20 ... and more
     
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    A 40 breeder actually has more than 40 gallons though. I would agree with 30g or less.
     
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    The term "nano" seems to be getting stretched out a bit. Less than 30 gallons is even still, a quite a stretch. Less than 16 gallons, is more like it. Placing an 8 gallon Nuvo next to a 40b, and trying to convince someone they are in the same size category, is bold!
     
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    I say 20 or less is nano then 21 and up is just small reef just my 2 cents though
     
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    Nanos shouldn't be 40 gallons
     
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    I like to think the cut off point for a nano would be about 25gallons for the display.
    If we start considering a 40gal a nano then all the people with 55s will be like "dude, check out my 55 gallon nano" then we'll have to consider a 55 a nano. Just like we did (in this hypothetical anyway) with the 40.
    It'll keep on going and eventually people will be like "just bought a 15,000 gallon nano today. It's a nano compared to the ocean..." Haha.
     
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    I think size of the sump wont add or take away to the fact if it is a pico or nano. It shouldnt be considered into the matter.

    While it is unlikely that somebody will have a 10 gallon display and a 100 gal sump...

    But I believe in a situation like that it would be considered a nano regardless because you are only working with 10 gallon dimensions to stock livestock. I wouldnt stock much in that 10 gal regardless of the size of the sump.
     
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    Exactly. I think the display tank should be the only thing taken into consideration. In your example that means i would have 110 gallons. Could I put a tang or large angel in that 110 gallon set up? No because it's only a 10 gallon display tank.
     
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    I'm unsure why we even need the "nano", "pico" and other classifications. A 40gal is 40 gallons regardless of if it's considered a nano, a small tank, a big tank or whatever.
    Why must we name EVERYTHING in this hobby? From corals that are so slightly different in pattern to the point where people are arguing over what it is based on how many spots it has near the mouth to whether or not a tank should fall into a certain classification based on size.
    If we treated people the same way we'd be horrible people. Judging how good or bad someone is based on size or skin colour.
    Next thing you know people will be arguing over what to name certain light settings. "No it's dusk because the blues are 60% brighter than the whites."
    "No, it's late dusk because the whites are below 10%".
    Geeeeez! Just accept things for what they are and stop trying to push everything into some sort of category. Things can't be left alone in this hobby. Everything needs to be something....
     
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    Tyler1503.. Have a snickers, you get a little angry when your hungry :p
     
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    I have a 40 breeder, and there is no way I would consider it a nano. Its a small tank yes, but not a nano.

    I have always thought less than 20 was a nano and less than 5 being a pico.

    Definitely not a 40 being a nano though, being able to keep a small tang in a tank should disqualify it as a nano completely.
     
  18. Tahoe61

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    Old standard 0-6 pico, 6-30 nano, it's not as commonly used as it use to be.

    The reason why we label a specific volume of water is because we buy and sell live stock appropriate (liveaquria nano fish for example) and equipment designed for that volume of water.
     
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    Haha yea I'm a bit grumpy today. Maybe an early lunch is a good idea :p
     
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    I haven't had a quiet chuckle this good in a while. Compared to the ocean.... blahahhahh!
     
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