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  1. cycled123

    cycled123 Well-Known Member

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    Starting a 180g mixed reef tank in January. Here is our planned stocking list and loose order. Thoughts? (Planning to cycle with a few pieces of live rock and lots of dry rock currently curing in tote)
    3 Bartlett's Anthias
    Copper Band Butterfly
    Add Occelarius Clown fish, Six line wrasse, Royal Gramma, Sapphire Damsel and Lawnmower blenny from current 37g along with all the rock and corals from this tank
    Magnificent Fox Face
    Yellow Tang
    Powder blue Tang (should these tangs go in together?)
    Exquisite Fairy Wrasse or Leopard wrasse (Haven't decided yet-- would both be an option?)
    Green Mandarin after a year

    Other Fish looking at: (At least one of these red fish)
    Firefish pair (Red)
    Flame Hawkfish (Red) this is my favorite but live aquaria says caution with blennies. Will this be ok with Lawnmower blenny?
    Pacific Red Hogfish (Red)
    Bangaii Cardinal pair
    Gobies? Any suggestions?
     
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    Flame hawk is a great addition, but they are semi-aggressive so adding them last would be a good option or steer clear of adding young fish, clean up crew, or bottom dwellers. My flame hawk is fairly peaceful with all her tank mates but she is still getting used to my young wrasses. Since your tank is large you might have a better success with these guys.
     
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    Sixline wrasses are not good tankmates with mandarins. Sixlines are also aggressive to peaceful wrasses, like the exquisite and leopard.

    Red hogfish are aggressive as they mature.

    The tangs will be fine together, but get the copperband in the tank first.

    I have found algae and starry blennies are aggressive to flame hawks, not vice versa.
     
  4. cycled123

    cycled123 Well-Known Member

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    Sixline wrasses are not good tankmates with mandarins. Sixlines are also aggressive to peaceful wrasses, like the exquisite and leopard.

    Red hogfish are aggressive as they mature.

    The tangs will be fine together, but get the copperband in the tank first.

    I have found algae and starry blennies are aggressive to flame hawks, not vice versa.[/QUOTE]

    Should I add the tangs at the same time? Of our 5 fish the sixline is the least aggressive so I may still consider another wrasse as long as it is larger.
     
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    Should I add the tangs at the same time? Of our 5 fish the sixline is the least aggressive so I may still consider another wrasse as long as it is larger.[/QUOTE]
    Adding tangs simultaneously is best, but if you can't, add the yellow before the powder blue.

    Sixlines can still be aggressive to peaceful wrasses, even if the peaceful wrasses are significantly bigger.
     
  6. pdisner

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    Looks cool to me. But you don’t have a CB Butyerfly IMG_0508.jpg
     
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    Perchlet?
     
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    I think you will be overstocked. I have a 125 fowlr only 25 gallons less then yours but I only have a Niger trigger, Picasso trigger, Powder blue, blue hippo, and a yellowtang, and 1 damsel and my stocking is at max. You have almost double the stocking I have.

    All the fish you mentioned can all fit in a 150 without too many problems. Yellow tangs and PBT can live together though I recommend adding them at the same time. Probably what you need to do is take some of the larger fish of the list.
     
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  9. eatbreakfast

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    Bioloads, feeding routines, maintenance routines, filtration equipment, all vary greatly from tank to tank. What may be the limit for one system may not for another.
     
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    Adding tangs simultaneously is best, but if you can't, add the yellow before the powder blue.

    Sixlines can still be aggressive to peaceful wrasses, even if the peaceful wrasses are significantly bigger.[/QUOTE]

    Is there another wrasse I can put with the sixline?
     
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    Thank you for the insight! I will definitely be adding fish gradually as I suspect once the tank is at capacity I will be looking for a larger or another tank and I want this one to take longer than my 40 gallon. As for filtration, this will be in my basement plumbed to a stock tank refugium and a sump with a skimmer like the Reef Octopus Regal 200EXT with VarioS.

    @Jmas4 What filtration do you have on your tank that puts your fish load at what you're currently stocking?
     
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    I have a about 40 gallon sump with a two little fishies 150 gfo reactor, simplicity 240 protien skimmer, and 10-20 gallon refugium with calpura nd cheato. With this my nitrates at 10 and phosphate is at 0.06
     
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    Is there another wrasse I can put with the sixline?
    Larger, more assertive species, such as hogfish, tuskfish, and the genus Coris, but those species eat inverts and knock corals over.
     
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    Making some plans for a 120g - My wife wants a mandarin and I would like either an orange spot or diamond goby. How would these two get along? Is 120 large enough to keep them both fed? Pods are the main food source for these right? Would 1 of each work? What about 2 mandarins and 1 goby? No go?

    I will have a fuge to hopefully help keep the pod population growing....
     
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    Together they will be fine. Neither one has a temperment problem...especially in a well furnished 120g with plenty of live rock. Food is your concern. The mandarin....I would reseach ALOT about his care! Pods are mandarins main source for food, tho some have been taught to take small pellets but again research it a lot and see Youtube videos on this topic. As for the goby, provide him plenty of fine sand to sift out the algae and plenty of hiding places within the live rock. Remember, these two fish are peaceful fish, so be careful with what tankmates you put in with them.
     
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    And a refugium, filled with chaeto growing lots of pods is a great thing to have. But FYI, it is best to get a mandarin ONLY once the tank is very well-established.
     
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    Ya the plan is to do the mandarin after a year. I was wondering if the goby would compete with the mandarin for pods.
     
  18. pdisner

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    Listen I raise pods. You’re better off, if you have mandarins, to culture out your own nursery, then get yourself a 50 micron sieve, and strain out the copepods to concentrate. Then target feed them to the mandarin.
     
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    Here’s mine. There’s nothing to scale him by but he’s huge. He’s well fed and eats my pods. [​IMG]
     
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    This is a 1 gallon container
     
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