neptune FMM failed to stop pump from topping up

[MarshallB]

add If ATK_LO CLOSED Then OFF after if ATK_LO OPEN Then ON. It's not checking to see if the low sensor is closed after turning on. That code is relying on the timer to shut it off. The timer doesn't seem to be working so its not shutting off till it hits the high sensor.

However, it still shouldn't be turning ON while the low sensor is closed even with that code anyways.

 

[David Cher]

This is the default code mine automatically set up. Only thing I added was the max run time and the sensor for my RO water Res. Looks like the sensors are backwards in your code. However, I still don't see why your code wouldn't work. Have you noticed if it stays on for longer than 1 minute at a time?


Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If ATK_H OPEN Then ON
If ATK_L CLOSED Then OFF
If ROLow OPEN Then OFF
When On > 005:00 Then OFF
Defer 000:10 Then ON
Defer 000:04 Then OFF
Min Time 120:00 Then OFF

i will give your code a try and see whether it works

If ATK_LO CLOSED Then OFF
If ATK_HI OPEN Then ON

update : tried your code and the pmup did not stop at all once it hit the ATK_LO closed state which i think some thing is wrong . the trigger is not stopping the pmup and it left it on for no good reason . this only happened these few weeks. it cost to replace the fmm module and even the new module is having the same issue

 

[schuby]

Can you post a pic of FMM config screen that shows what each port is? And a pic of the sensors cables plugged into FMM?

 

[David Cher]

here are the pictures

 

[Sablah]

add If ATK_LO CLOSED Then OFF after if ATK_LO OPEN Then ON. It's not checking to see if the low sensor is closed after turning on. That code is relying on the timer to shut it off. The timer doesn't seem to be working so its not shutting off till it hits the high sensor.

However, it still shouldn't be turning ON while the low sensor is closed even with that code anyways.

His Set OFF statement would negate the need for ATK_LO CLOSED Then OFF.

This is the default code mine automatically set up. Only thing I added was the max run time and the sensor for my RO water Res. Looks like the sensors are backwards in your code. However, I still don't see why your code wouldn't work. Have you noticed if it stays on for longer than 1 minute at a time?


Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If ATK_H OPEN Then ON
If ATK_L CLOSED Then OFF
If ROLow OPEN Then OFF
When On > 005:00 Then OFF
Defer 000:10 Then ON
Defer 000:04 Then OFF
Min Time 120:00 Then OFF

Your ATK_H and ATK_L conditionals are backwards.

and this is the email i kept getting

Status: OFF
Statement: Error on Top_off
Date: 2021-01-31 11:12:47 +0800

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The alarm is being triggered by the "When" statement conditional being met, which would mean that neither sensor being CLOSED is responsible for the PMUP to turn off. I'm out of ideas, my next step would be to do a factory reset on the APEX and reconfigure it (this will erase everything, so backup any needed programming/config data and any historical data first).

 

[David Cher]

here is what i think fix the issue :

Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If FMM_LO OPEN Then ON
If FMM_HI CLOSED Then OFF
When On > 001:00 Then OFF
Defer 000:10 Then ON

thanks for your help @Sablah

 

[schuby]

here is what i think fix the issue :

Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If FMM_LO OPEN Then ON
If FMM_HI CLOSED Then OFF
When On > 001:00 Then OFF
Defer 000:10 Then ON

thanks for your help @Sablah

It looks like you changed the name of the sensors. Was that the issue all along or were the sensors also plugged into the wrong ports on the FMM?




Original code:

Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If ATK_LO OPEN Then ON
If ATK_HI CLOSED Then OFF
If Leak CLOSED Then OFF
When On > 001:00 Then OFF
Defer 000:02 Then OFF
Defer 000:30 Then ON
Min Time 060:00 Then OFF